A far right politician has been forced to apologise after the Norwegian media uncovered a letter sent to his colleagues, in which he suggests Muslims should be psychologically de-programmed against violent tendencies.
Trond Roed, of the country’s anti-immigration Progress Party, sent the document to around 100 party members in 2004, The Foreigner reports.
In it, he claims the Koran incites violence and that preaching should be banned. “One should therefore question whether hour-long Koran citations over many years can cause serious psychological damage, with a consequent risk of committing criminal and destructive acts. Another question is whether it is possible to establish suitable psychiatric treatment institutions that can carry out the de-programming,” one paragraph read.
Norwegian-born professor and Islam researcher, Anne Sofie Roald, said the idea that violence and Islam are linked indicates a distinct “lack of history”. “Even though Islam has more of a political background, Christianity has been used politically and is, amongst other things, used for such purposes in the US today,” she told VG, “not to mention in a politically violent manner under the Crusades.”
Mr Roed apparently hoped the 11-page letter would contribute to shaping the party’s immigration policy. He has since apologised, claiming, “I don’t stand for what I said then any longer, regret sending it, and that I didn’t conduct better research at the time.”
informed rational freedom loving people have all the reasons in the world to fear islam…
the twin fogs of political correctness & ignorance must be dispersed before western society better understands this menace. even a brief review of islamic theology & history quickly exposes the deadly roots of this evil ideology.
Mohamhead was a 7th century murdering warlord who rose to power on a river of blood surrounded by thugs and gangsters using intimidation, violence, deception and trickery to expand their criminal empire while mercilessly suppressing and killing their opponents and enriching themselves on stolen booty.
The evil koran is a collection of sayings and speeches by this diabolical madman claiming divine guidance from some mythical sky-god which has inspired generations of crazed fanatics to abhorrent behavior resulting in historys worst ever crimes against humanity starting 1400 years ago and still continuing even today.
Islam is just another fascist totalitarian ideology used by power hungry fanatics on yet another quest for worldwide domination and includes all the usual human rights abuses & suppression of freedoms.
and a snappy graphics version, great for emailing…
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/1479/dangermoko.jpg
Violence is something we all regret and reject in our societies, I hope we can achieve peace someday.
@Hamed – This summer I had the pleasure to live among African muslims south of Equator. It was superb – and I had many good talks :-)
@ Oystein-Norway – my respect. I sincerely wish you a happy and fulfilling live.
Because whether religious or not religious person, both covered by the following sentence:
People believe their words and sentences were a knife that cuts into the stupidity of others, and the speaker was sitting on the blunt edge. But in reality words and sentences are a dagger.
People believe their words and sentences that they speak about others would describe these. In reality, however, they tell more about themselves than they should like.
I hope you do not believe that I use a special technique now to try to dissuade you ;-)
@Hamed – In my view brain washing means that some people try to use special technics to change peoples mind. I don´t look at my self as brain washed. I am not a religious person and prefer humanism as a main direction of my life.
Dear Oystein-Norway,
the brain of each person in the world was washed, without exception. The brainwashing began no later than with the birth of each person.
Since not all people are able to realize that they were subjected to brainwashing in reality, you have to endure what these people describe as their intelligence.
The people believe that they have reached the highest level of intelligence only when they make religion responsible for the evil in the world. These people have simply forgotten: the gulags of the Stalinists, the concentration camps of the Nazis, the killing fields of the Khmer Rouge, etc. All these findings were the result of highly-intelligent atheistic systems, which rejected religions.
“The thoughts are free”, the German song about the freedom of thought, is the song that directed against those authorities, which want to tell what you have to think, and afflict you, if you do not obey them.
The Christians of the anti-Nazi resistance movement in Germany, the White Rose, is an excellent example. Dr. Music and Stephen Gash should keep this song in memory. It may be, they hear it again one day, sung by other people, from other religion.
@Hamed – “The inhabitants of the earth are divided into two groups: those who have reason, but no religion, and the others have religion, but no reason.”
Perhaps this song reflects what people really think:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNSfHHM_b28 (german)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdSU-Bfav7k (norwegian)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClXkmdEPdIo&feature=related (english)
Those who don´t accept this song might be brainwashed..
Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Gedanken_sind_frei
Dear nasser,
“The Hanifs are under a misapprehension, the Christians are not on the right path, the Jews are confused and the Zorastrier misdirected!
The inhabitants of the earth are divided into two groups: those who have reason, but no religion, and the others have religion, but no reason.”
It could be that Abu l’Ala Al Maarri spoke the truth?
an* almighty yawn…jeez
But who created the almighty?…. While you think about it I’m about to create almighty yawn.
>>>which only proves your ignorance regarding Allah, who whether you like it or not created you and created your brain as He Created everything in this universe.
In which case dr.music is as much of his plan as you are. Chill, I’m sure the Almighty can fight her own battles.
Dr. Music
The Quran is the word of Allah that was revealed to Prophit Muhammed as a message to all mankind. I wish you have read even one verse of it before you dare to disgrace the words of Allah in such disinformative and disgraceful way which only proves your ignorance regarding Allah, who whether you like it or not created you and created your brain as He Created everything in this universe.Could you contemplate for a moment who is seeding evil and hate here. is it the Quran or your misinformed opinion?! One day you will die and your soul will go back to Allah its creator, in the same way He grabs your soul every night when you fall asleep. And then if Allah asked you, what Justification you have to use, is it muslims you hate or is it Allah you disbelieve? All in all that does it give you the right or the Trond Roed to write in such shameful way about the Quran.
the call for prayers from mosques start with the words Allah akbar, which means Allah is great, the surat that is recited by muslims five times a day is Alfatiha or the which starts with praise of Allah the merciful and ends with seeking His help for guidance to the righteous path. The whole Quran contains no curse for jews or christians or a call for ” non islamic deaths”.
I believe that in this world people are always arguing in two poles such as good bad, right wrong, clever stupid etc. It is often called dualism. Since everything in this world is concept, theory, or thoughts, so every brain must contain different views. Therefore, Judging others true or false depends on where your mind stands on. One speaks can be wrong, one is silent can be wrong, one neither speaks nor is silent can also be wrong. Thus LET US FORGIVE EACH OTHER IN THIS EIDL FITR DAY. Regards,
Indonesian
I heard that there are more than a billion Muslims, and more than a billion Christians. And I hear that only a manageable bunch of crazies, who call themselves Muslims and Christians, claims that they “defend” themselves only.
I know, not everyone who defends himself is a criminal. But I also know that every criminal declared himself as one who only defended himself.
Who has not compassion for the pitiful defender? The logic of his sentences is not important, because he is a lonesome defender. Let us weep with him.
How such kind of person can get justice? There is only one correct answer: let them taste their own law.
We may banish these two bunches of crazies on a deserted island. After two years we can see on the island, whether it is deserted again. Then the problem is solved.
Another language this kind of persons does not understand.
Regarding:
“Christianity has been used politically and is, amongst other things, used for such purposes in the US today, not to mention in a politically violent manner under the Crusades.”
The Crusades were a response to Muslims on the rampage. The Christians were on defense in that one. What else you got?
@dr music
I hear, that first rejected the maniacs the books in favor of “reason”, then put the maniacs all their money on the industry, and finally to the technology, and as long as they do not run out the panaceas, they will probably never be cured of this habit.
Thank you, that you want to save us. More proof is not necessary to know that obsession never needs a book. Because one maniac misuse the Koran, the other maniac misuse the Holy Bible, the third maniac misuse Darwin, and now a maniac misuse even Buddha, everybody have to make mass suicide. I understood proper as you think best? Then I beg you therefore: go ahead us. Let us a good example.
If books could react, how would these react to your song? Let me hear:
When I leave people, these could determine me well, that I stay in their place, so are these this people, who sever.
Thank you for your insightful song.
Only fools apologise for speaking the truth.
First things first .. The koran is not a holy book..it is the most evil and racist and sexist book ever written. It is a slur to the written word. It is an insult to human intelligence. Have no doubt. Read it to disbelieve it .The Koran is PURE NONSENSE. All muslims should be trying to get out of islam’s clutches . All muslims should be trying to get out of islam’s clutches not only for their sake and their children’s sake but for the sake of their forefathers and foremothers who were converted to this evil and vile cult by the sword and fright. Forget christianity if it’s such a big issue .muslims need to move out en masse to something like buddhism. Or mass suicide. One can only hope.
Let’s not forget that Islamic prayer includes a ritual of repeated MELODIC repetition of the first verse of the Koran, a verse that has been interpreted since its authoratative interpretation in medieval times, and still is today, to be a curse on Jews and Christians.
The first Sura or chapter of the Koran contains the MELODIC CURSING of the Jews and Christians that is repeated five times daily in prayers. So the next time you hear the melodic Islamic call from the nearest mosque you helped build remember they aren’t calling you …they’re calling FOR non-islamic deaths.