Ossur Skarphedinsson, Icelandic Minister for Foreign Affairs, and his entourage had their trip to Gaza interrupted yesterday when Israeli soldiers obstructed the path of their cars with large rocks.
The Icelandic FM’s visit to Palestine has now drawn to a close with one of the biggest headlines being Skarphedinsson’s declaration that Iceland would support any UN resolution on Palestinian independence and UN membership.
Skarphedinsson met with Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas and aides on Saturday. On his way to Gaza, the Icelandic delegation took a protracted route which avoided Israel; but the minister claims Israeli soldiers in the militarised zone were rude and un-cooperative.
“Today [Sunday] we were in a long car entourage with Icelandic and Palestinian flags en route to the city of Qalqylie to see how the Israeli army has literally walled it in. When we went to a checkpoint where passports are checked, we were not allowed to continue. To underline the fact, soldiers rolled large rocks out into one of the two streets at the crossroads. After a lot of fuss and bother, we had no choice but to take the other road and the trip which should have taken 45 minutes took three hours. This is the daily lot of people living in this area. It is very humiliating for normal citizens to have to put up with this and it disrupts the town’s entire functionality. I also understand from my staff that they [Israeli authorities] have sent a sternly worded letter protesting my trip and that my route deliberately avoided Israel. But last time when I intended to go that way the Israelis slammed the door at the last minute — such is their way of delaying visits of this sort,” Skarphedinsson told DV by telephone. He went on to make some hard hitting comments about Jewish settlers in the Palestinian territories who are reportedly extremely and unacceptably hostile to locals and build their towering settlements against almost everyone’s wishes.
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A smug little Elf
sat on a shelf
as he watched you fight
it soon came to light
he outwits you all
even though hes so small
Össur is a player for the EU gang, not for Icelanders.
Everything he does should be looked at from that perspective.
For our indulgent readers, more noble wisdom from the Eddas:
The angry Swede to my farmstead came
To criticize the furniture
“We make better in Sweden,” cried he
I broke the milk-jug over his head
He stumbled into my sheep-stall
His snoring disturbed the ewes.
Gummi
Björn Erikson, I like the way you use Háfamál to support your case, the one you selected for Gummi was like it had been written for him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY7dtuYH7B0
@to my interlocutors
I would like to remind everyone just because: The genetic research has proven that all Europeans are descended from seven women. These seven women were from Ethiopia. When I answer a racist, then a Negro talking to a Negro. Racists are too stupid.
Today a “racist” needs to use other reasons to continue his stupidity: a different nation, a different kind of society, a different religion, etc. Racists will always find a reason to continue their stupidities.
Therefore there is no reason to interact with a racist even a single word. If one racist touch one member of my unarmed family, then the only correct answer to this racist is – a bullet, because they never learn on other ways. And I think, every clever person will think at the same way, it is a Jew or an Arab. For this reason it is good to listen, what the Icelandic FM speak. Because he cannot defense his family like I can do. It is therefore of interest to me, what he speaks, because he has no contracts of armament supplies in luggage. For me this is a positive sign for all. You see, arguments are a labyrinth from which there is no consistent output. What is peace-loving, what is not? I have no consistent answer.
I remember a report by Runar. It concerned the question of whether the Icelandic group of Greenpeace to buy a U.S. Army Dodge vehicle or not.
“If all the peace-loving people would buy all the military vehicles in the world, there would be no war more.”
That was the argument. The U.S. Army Dodge was purchased and painted with yellow and red.
So I know that I am just a fool.
„Ósnotur maður
er með aldir kemur,
það er best að hann þegi.
Engi það veit
að hann ekki kann,
nema hann mæli til margt.
Veita maður
hinn er vætki veit,
þótt hann mæli til margt.“
And my interlocutors are right: My English is too bad to post comments on IceNews. Sorry.
To cut a long short story: In collecting these facts I will therefore cease to write comments here. Many thanks to all participants; it was a pleasure to talk with you.
Bless.
The lessons learning Björn
@Bromley86
It was the answer to the sentence: “Wait, maybe not a good idea to get the Germans too upset. We all know where that leads. ”
Sorry, I only speak a pidgin English. So I understand the sentence this way: does not make angry this German, or he begins the next World War II.
We know that the German Nazis did World War II began. Do you know algebra? Then put into the literal equation: Jack the Ripper = Nazi, lady slaughter = murder, all Britons = me and all Germans.
I like General Patton, because he was what he was paid for: a good general. It was important to him that his soldiers did not even die from the mistakes of fools. I like General Patton, because he relentlessly chased the Nazis, from Africa to Munich, until his soldiers reached the concentration camp at Dachau. Unfortunately he has not shoot my uncle by the Waffen-SS. And I cannot shoot my uncle now, because that is now being punished as murder. What a shame!
I once heard the following sentence: What is the difference between communism and capitalism?
If a person is destroyed under communism, it must applaud. If a man is destroyed under capitalism, he may cry.
Please read a history book: The Warsaw Pact was a response to the WEU, and not vice versa.
I detest communism like you. But in the next war, unfortunately, you have to do without me. The nuclear weapons from the U.S. are no longer in our neighborhood. But I must stay here, to prevent the bombs come back again. For now I have children who need my protection. These do not need a living hero to the Czech border, when they disappear in a mushroom cloud in the same time.
I’m sorry: I am father first, and only then a vassal.
Which brings us back during the visit of the Icelandic foreign minister in Palestine would be.
In fact, it goes here in this round to the question whether an Icelandic Foreign Minister to visit Palestine off or not.
In answering this question, heavy guns were in position: racist, anti-Semite, opportunist, etc.
And anyone who did not want to join this opinion was, therefore, a racist, an anti-Semite, an opportunist.
Show me a concentration camp: I will fight alongside you. Otherwise: Don’t bother me with your world outlook. That’s not my pigeon. That’s your pigeon!
If all this is a sign for a dips**t, then I’m like to be a dips**t.
The dipshit
>I understood at that time, I did not practice war, I played war. I defended your America.
I’m trying to avoid using “dips**t” in this reply. It’s hard though.
Whatever the USA was to Europe, it was better than the USSR. Those were your choices, as Patton would have told you. Not many in the former Warsaw Pact would elect to have remained in their bloc.
>Please, previously check the consequence of your logic: “And because of Jack the Ripper all British are on the way to become lady slaughters.”
Undeserved as the original comment was, one case is a country following a group of people (with varying degrees of enthusiasm, but with the majority pretty compliant), whilst the other is a person who chops up hookers. No comparison.
@Gummi
“Vesall maður
og illa skapi
hlær að hvívetna.
Hittki hann veit
er hann vita þyrfti
að hann era vamma vanur.”
Áfram Gummi.
Peace-loving, Tank-Driving Foreigner Eriksson does proclaim his love for the Great Satan’s less evil minions: “I appreciate very best Americans: General George S. Patton, Noam Chomsky, Dr. Martin Luther King, Joan Baez, Woody Guthrie, Marlon Brando, Martin Scorsese, Michael Moore, etc. Oh, I forgot: This you call in your country “communists”.”
Gen. George Patton was a communist?!? My God.
The Great Satan is more cunning than we dared imagine. Thank you, Foreigner Eriksson, for pointing out this disturbing truth.
And wow that our peaceful, spirit-loving nation is free of the Americans’ vile influence, will the Swedish Army occupy us?
We really need the money and promise we won’t steal from you nearly as much.
Afram Island!
Gummi
I’ve always believed the Swede to be a superior vegetable…
“General George S. Patton, Noam Chomsky, Dr. Martin Luther King, Joan Baez, Woody Guthrie, Marlon Brando, Martin Scorsese, Michael Moore, etc.”
That list made me chuckle. But to each their own.
Five of the eight are entertainers. No matter how much I travel and see it with my own eyes, I will never cease to be amazed at the reach of American popular culture.
I’m quite sure Donald Duck would win a universal Presidential race easily. With Captain Kirk a close second.
Brave, Noble, Tank-Driving, Peace-loving, America-Bashing Foreigner Eriksson does righteously proclaim: ““…Did not spare even a little money to help a peaceful nation that the world makes the greatest gift possible: the spirit?”
Well said foreigner Eriksson!! I applaud your noble if convoluted sentiment. Do you mean to say that the Great Satan should send its money to Plucky, brave, noble, peace-loving, spirited little Sweden? We all know Swedes are a superior people. Except for that time they invited in the Nazis to rape Norway. And that other time they declared themselves neutral in, what was that thing, you know, World-War-something, had to do with genocide, you’ll remember, it was in all the papers. Sweden sold excellent weapons to every side, winners and losers alike.
…Unless of course your convoluted (yet noble) grammar refers to us people here in Iceland? Brave, plucky little Iceland? If so, yes, the Great Satan should most definitely send us all their money. After all, we give the world our noble, ehm, ‘spirit’. Always happy to sell you some.
Afram Island!
Gummi
@LC “Just another member of the US is evil chorus”?
I appreciate very best Americans: General George S. Patton, Noam Chomsky, Dr. Martin Luther King, Joan Baez, Woody Guthrie, Marlon Brando, Martin Scorsese, Michael Moore, etc.
Oh, I forgot: This you call in your country “communists”. Sorry. You accept, that I continue to call this person “a good spirit”?
I remember. More than thirty years ago, I practiced the war in my tank at the Czechoslovakian border. Two months ago I learned that my family would just disappear at this time in a mushroom cloud. The reason for the Soviet nuclear strike was an error in the interpretation of information from a satellite. The target was an American nuclear missile weapons depot, where American nuclear weapons stored.
I understood at that time, I did not practice war, I played war. I defended your America. I was far away from my family because of it. My family was two seconds before their death, and I was not there, because I have to protect my family. Pick-a sandbox, and play your own wars. Unfortunately I have not this type of intelligence.
And read first the news of your own journalists in the States before you begin your propaganda to the world.
It was Mr. Rumsfeld, now taken to court, who had no interest more to pay US soldiers garrisoned on Iceland, because there is no reason more. The interests of US government changed.
“Maybe not a good idea to get the Germans too upset. We all know where that leads.”
Please, previously check the consequence of your logic: “And because of Jack the Ripper all British are on the way to become lady slaughters.” I understand. ;-)
And the Bangster? Where are this Icelandic bangster and their supporters now? Banished, in prison or taken to court. Where are the European and US bangster now? Shaking hands with political leaders and drinking cocktails together. Or was it tea? The “normal” people, like you and me, will pay their bills. ? I think, it would be better for you and me, to learn something from Iceland.
For this reason: Please, wait a little bit. I will meet you at the pay desk. You will offer tea for the cupped geese? Then please make a note: I prefer fresh water.
Until then
@LC – “Though certainly a healthy attitude for interpersonal relation”.
Interpersonal relations work very well between people on all levels. The problem is all those people that make problems to others – dislike that some talk together. Those kind of people are paranoid. So a main question to you is – what are “you” afraid of and what do you want to protect.
Remember that when an Icelandic FM are visiting the Palestines – he is not only representing Iceland. Those block of stones represents something symbolic – you should reflect of that. (You don´need to bring up a long lesson about all the bad things the Palestines have done). My simple question is if it was interpersonal wise or stupid to use those blocks of rocks to stop the FM.
Cue violins playing.
“It was the interests of the United States, which occupied Iceland unasked. The United States were in a war, the occupation of Iceland appeared strategically important for the United States. And there were the interests of the United States, why the U.S. soldiers after the war not wanting to leave again, as promised, because the U.S. was now in the cold war. It was always the war of others, and never the war of Island. And Iceland has helped the United States and NATO still happy. This hypocrisy and perfidy of the others now be described as heroic, need therefore a special spirit.”
A most amusing take on history.
“Which could pose danger to the world of the inhabitants of a small town that sits on a volcanic rock between deserts? What Iceland can even threaten danger from others, except that risk, which Iceland is caused by the wars of others?”
I can’t say I actually follow this Pigeon English but something about rainbows and fairy dust ?
“Did not spare even a little money to help a peaceful nation that the world makes the greatest gift possible: the spirit?”
Yes, so many artists, intellectuals, creators, scientists etc.. have been inspired by the tiny Island of Iceland, with it’s one of a kind spirit. Opps, I think were talking about the US. You know. That actually absorbs millions of immigrants instead of talking out of it’s ass about it’s “spirit.” A place that people actually get inspired.
And, yes, Iceland had it’s hand out like most of the world. We hate the US. We want your money. Believe me when I tell you even in cosmopolitan, tolerant NYC the song is getting very old.
“From extortion is never a good friendship emerged.”
More like when we need you we love you. When we don’t you’re extorting us. I would love the US to stop extorting the Europeans. 60+ years after the end of WW2 I’m tired of the US taxpayer extorting the Europeans by picking up most of the cost of their security. Let the Germans pick up the tab for all the PIGS and their defense costs. Wait, maybe not a good idea to get the Germans too upset. We all know where that leads.
“And: I am not an Icelandic citizen.”
Just another member of the US is evil chorus. Original.
Noble, America-Bashing Foreigner Eriksson does righteously protest: “Who can be blackmailed by a small nation that lives far away from other peoples, without weapons?”
Well said foreigner Eriksson!! My eyes well with tears at your nobly expressed sentiment. As a pure Aryan people who never hurt anyone (except for our Vikings, but they only raped Europe for 500 years, and of course our banks, but they only ruined a few million depositors, and yes, well, our Bjork, but she’ll be dead soon)… but as I say, aside from those trifles, we do not deserve what we got at the hands of the Great Satan. How dare they occupy our noble nation!! Although to be fair, we were not a nation, just peasants sh**ing in a hole and sleeping in the grass until they showed us, what do you call it, yes, that thing, ‘cement’ – but I digress… how dare they occupy us, for, as you do nobly imply, selfish greed?!? What’s the worst that could have happened if they’d left us alone? A German concentration camp in Keflavik. Yes. But that aside, The Nazis never hurt anyone. Hitler always said Icelanders were of pure Aryan stock, (see Miss World, see Fittest Woman, see Hardest Working People, etc.). and god knows we’d have been just fine living under the SS. Himmler, he’d be retired in Isafjordur and the Jews, well, that’s not our problem. Nor apparently is it yours.
Thank you for pointing that out.
You are wise indeed.
Gummi
True LC…Always use protection ;)
“. I am not particular paranoid or afraid of other people”
Though certainly a healthy attitude for interpersonal relations that is a non-sequitur insofar as a security policy is concerned.
“I think it is possible and much better to reduce/avoid conflicts in other ways than by weapons.”
Yes, I like the song “Imagine” by J. Lennon as well. Very catchy. And I appreciate the sentiment. But I live on planet Earth. And I expect people that make security policy to act accordingly.
Your country, if it is not Iceland, either has a military or relies on another country for protection. It’s as simple as that.
@Lucky Charms
It was the interests of the United States, which occupied Iceland unasked. The United States were in a war, the occupation of Iceland appeared strategically important for the United States. And there were the interests of the United States, why the U.S. soldiers after the war not wanting to leave again, as promised, because the U.S. was now in the cold war. It was always the war of others, and never the war of Island. And Iceland has helped the United States and NATO still happy. This hypocrisy and perfidy of the others now be described as heroic, need therefore a special spirit. Which could pose danger to the world of the inhabitants of a small town that sits on a volcanic rock between deserts? What Iceland can even threaten danger from others, except that risk, which Iceland is caused by the wars of others?
The United States can push every corrupt dictator of the world is billions in the ass. Did not spare even a little money to help a peaceful nation that the world makes the greatest gift possible: the spirit?
Learn the Icelandic language, to further your mind:
Afhvarf mikið
er til ills vinar,
þótt á brautu búi.
En til góðs vinar
liggja gagnvegir,
þótt hann sé firr farinn.
From extortion is never a good friendship emerged. Who can be blackmailed by a small nation that lives far away from other peoples, without weapons?
Please think about it, before you judge ill of peaceful people. Just because these people do not always dance to your tune.
And: I am not an Icelandic citizen.
@LC – (I am not from Iceland). I am not particular paranoid or afraid of other people and I think it is possible and much better to reduce/avoid conflicts in other ways than by weapons.
“@LS – I just wonder – who is the enemy that NATO/US effectively protect Iceland against?”
I anticipated this thought when I wrote my previous post. Isn’t that always the way though. When you are in need of protection it’s great, right. When you feel more secure, you’re borderline contemptuous of your protector.
I’m no geopolitical expert so I can’t predict the next threat. But I’ll tell you what. As you cant’ see past next Thursday and seem to think NATO isn’t protecting you from any threat I think you should petition the Leprechaun to withdraw from NATO. It would be one less country the US/NATO will have to even theoretically concern itself with. But if and when the world changes again and your tiny Island of juicy natural resources is feeling somewhat more insecure, you can’t come back. OK ?
Oh, and don’t run to the Federal Reserve Bank for any currency swaps either. Financial assistance is part of security. Try the Russians or the Chinese.
Correction – my question is to “Lucky Charm”.
@LS – I just wonder – who is the enemy that NATO/US effectively protect Iceland against?
“Please do not forget: Iceland has no military and no weapons used.”
It’s a distortion of reality that Iceland has no de facto military and “no weapons used.”
The statement is also an unintended joke. Your military protection has been, and effectively continues to be, provided for by the US/NATO. If it weren’t the US it would be another country.
And it’s offensive to receive lectures about “racism” from a resident of such a homogenous, insular country.
Sæl Mikizo,
I am sorry, to date I know only two nations, which surveyed its citizens about the “race” of the mother or grandmother. These nations took a note about the “race” of the mother or grandmother in the passport of their citizens. All I know is that Iceland was none of these two nations. If Iceland one day such a nation should be, let me know it, I will be the first ally on your side.
Believe me, if a person is in danger because of his “race” or his religion, I’ll open the door to him, support him, hiding and cater him. Six months ago I opened in this way the door one Yessides family, escaped from Iraqi killers, which killing innocent unarmed Yessides civilians in the north of Iraq, not disturbed by US soldiers. This door is of course also open to a person of Jewish faith, including Shlomo Sand for example. If you like to call it “jew hatred”, I would have no problem with your opinion. Everyone is free to define terms and its concepts as he like it. Maybe you protected in your life people too, they was not from your “race”, not from your religion. I don’t know you, but I am hopeful, you will do it.
But I know Icelanders now for more than thirty years. For this reason I am convinced that every Icelander would open doors as well, no matter what “race” or religion this person belongs.
Please do not forget: Iceland has no military and no weapons used. Racists love guns and hate other “races”. Because racists call it’s racism a “defense”. Racists accept weapons before, and then they start to hate other “races”. For first there is the intention, then follows the emotion. At the end of this emotion is the murder. You see, there is no reason to be confused about Icelanders.
Jew-hater burn literature and murder people. Icelanders detest weapons and like to generate and read literature. For this reason I am sure that the Icelandic FM Ossur Skarphedinsson had not forgotten the wisdom of the Edda:
„Tveir eru eins herjar,
tunga er höfuðs bani.
er mér í héðin hvern
handar væni.“
It means: do not trust the all talk and the bigot.
In collecting all this facts I have to call it – civil courage. I would be happy if civil courage would be an accepted character in my country. Civil courage would have prevented that 6 million Jews, Christians, socialists, gypsies, etc. were murdered.
Your friend in your fight against racism
Björn
Mikizo – “Israeli soldiers blocked Icelandic FM’s car with rocks”.
How would you have classified this if this had happend to an Israelean FM? Would it have been looked as an anti-semitic action?
Mikizo, of course Bjorn knows that.
Modern day jew hatred among “respectable” Europeans must be coached in more subtle tones. So they make absurd semantic arguments like Bjorn “As the Icelandic FM Ossur Skarphedinsson has visited Palestine, he has proven that he is not anti-semitic” and rely on “anti-Zionist” and “anti-Israel” rhetoric.
“I wonder if Mr. Skarphedinsson would behave in the same manner in any other disputed area (and if he even knows where they are).”
Ding Ding Ding. And we have a winner.
Bjorn, as I presume you know already “anti-semitism” has nothing to do with the “race” of the Jewish people (suffice to say that one of Hitler’s honored guests during WWII was Abd El Kade El Huseini, the Mufti of Jerusalem and definitely a “semite”). Anti-semitism is simply a “scientific” (and hence politically correct in the late 19th century) term for good old “Juden Hass” (hatred of Jews). Since “racism” is now out of fashion among “progressives”, we now have “anti-zionism” and “BDS”.
While criticism of Israel is definitely acceptable, and is sometimes even justified, singling out Israel as the source of all evil in the world usually points at some other issues behind it (as does rudely ignoring the de jure and de facto sovereign in the disputed territory).
I wonder if Mr. Skarphedinsson would behave in the same manner in any other disputed area (and if he even knows where they are).
It would be helpful if jewish, arab and european racists would read at least once in their life a book, rather than publish nonsense.
Semites are those people who are descended from Shem, the son of Noah. For this reason, all Arabs and Jews are Semites.
The Icelandic FM Ossur Skarphedinsson attended Semites, the palistinensische people. How can he be anti-Semitic?
As the Icelandic FM Ossur Skarphedinsson has visited Palestine, he has proven that he is not anti-semitic. As the Icelanders do not criticize those of their foreign minister to visit Palestine, the Icelanders have proven that they are not anti-semites.
A proof that the rest of Europe has yet to deliver.
Pat has already said: “Iceland, with every day and in every way, you become more of a beacon for freedom and justice. Congratulations.”
I agree.
“He played a mean game of checkers and that’s all that matters.”
Yes, I agree that should be the test.
Incidentally, I don’t think this Leprechauns actions sucking up in the M.E. is the best move. Stay under the radar. Lest some bigger dog becomes more aware of you and takes your bone (natural resources). Last I heard US troops left. So you no longer have that trip wire going for you.
“May I remind you, Sir, that we’ve given the world Siggur Ros – the world’s first auditory sleeping pill. As if that’s not enough, we invented Suicide Banking, dioxin-flavored lamb, and Bjork.”
I stand corrected. And this sounds yummy “dioxin-flavored lamb.” I’m not sure it’s mentioned at the local Whole Foods when they are touting the Icelandic lamb.
And I was not branding the leprechaun anti-semetic. I don’t know the man. I was branding the other poster David an idiot for suggesting the President’s wife’s ethnicity/religion has anything to do with the issue. Also I couldn’t put together a Minyan in Iceland if I tried. Just saying…(https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Minyan)
Mr. Charm said: “…the) most ethnically homogenous country I have ever been to in my life. Very insular (explaining probably wny there are next to zero new ideas coming out of the place)”
No new ideas?
May I remind you, Sir, that we’ve given the world Siggur Ros – the world’s first auditory sleeping pill. As if that’s not enough, we invented Suicide Banking, dioxin-flavored lamb, and Bjork.
Gentlemen,
While it is (sadly) true that Ossur Skarphedinsson looks like a leprechaun with a hormonal imbalance and a stash of porn in his kettle, it is grossly unfair to brand him anti-Semitic!
Consider – Did we not honor the Jew Bobby Fisher with our nation’s citizenship? True, he was the only anti-Semitic Jew we could find, and died shortly thereafter. But that’s irrelevant. He played a mean game of checkers and that’s all that matters.
Gummi
“During the argument she was quoted as saying, “This is why people hate Jews.””
That’s what we do to any minority. If we don’t like the behavior of a single black, hispanic or jew, for example. It’s always “those darn blacks, Hispanics or jews.” When some scumbag from the majority f**ks up, it’s never that damn WASP. It’s that guy f**ked up.
Think about it.
Iceland is a particularly weird place on the Planet for anyone to be commenting on life just about anywhere else. It is among (probably the) most ethnically homogenous country I have ever been to in my life. Very insular (explaining probably wny there are next to zero new ideas coming out of the place) and very homogenous and the pair, I believe your local psychologist will tell you, is a recipe for some very oddball views about the world.
“And to anyone who wants to label Icelanders as anti-Semetic, just a quick reminder that the First Lady of Iceland, Dorrit Moussaieff, is an Israeli-born Jew. ”
Ah, yes, the “some of my best friends are black line.” That will always immunize you.
We in the US have a black President so, of course, no prejudice here, right genius ?
What this leprechaun from the micro, irrelevant as far as world matters are concerned “country” (a smaller population then the town I I grew up in) referred to as Iceland is doing playing this game is unknown to me because I’m unfamiliar with local Icelandic politics but it usually involves attempts to deflect some s**t situation.
I would go back to making shoes and collecting coins into a pot if I were this guy.
Tadzio – look in the mirror, arrogant racist!
Sauce for the goose. The Israeli ambassador to Iceland should be blocked on an outing by police on whatever spurious reason can be dreamed up. Jerks like zionists know only one thing. Treat them the way they treat you. There should be a price paid for racist arrogance.
Very interesting map, Kobayashi! Can you please tell us how many of the towns and villages on that 1898 map have Arabic names or were built by Arabs- as opposed to the Hebrews, the ancestors of the modern Israelis, who owned the land until it was taken from them by various colonialist and imperialist oppressors like you.
Correction – jews was resqueed.
@David – “I was saying that the Danes supported the Axis in WW II”.
Denmark was occupied under the war. That is why I suggested you to read about the Danes and the Jews under WWII. The fact is that the Danes were among those who took care of/protected the jews, and thanks to the Swedes almost all of the Danes in Denmark was resqueed. So when it comes to WWII – Sweden and Denmark was at least among the countries where the the jews had some relative sequrity.
David,
Icelandic history contains its share of anti-Jewish sentiment, legislation and behaviour.
From Hallgrímur Pétursson’s Passion Psalms to expelling Jewish refugess back to Germany in the late 1930’s to harboring Estonian was criminal Evald Mikson, Iceland has never shown sympathy to Jewish suffering or to Jewish life. This is probably one of the reasons that a Jewish community, other than Jewish servicemen in US bases, never really took hold.
This xenophobia and the wish to remain “racially pure” was not only anti-Jewish. Between WWII and the 1960’s, the Icelandic government repeatedly requested that the US refrain from stationing black servicemen in Iceland as well.
I believe that Mr. Skarphedinsson’s behaviour is sufficient to indicate that at the very least, he is no friend, or even an open minded critic, to Israel.
@Oystein: Not sure what you mean. I was saying that the Danes supported the Axis in WW II, going so far as to retaining a functional Danish state and king until 1943 overseen by the Nazis, while Iceland provided support to the Allies, albeit a result of pre-emptive British invasion.
@Bromley: Right. But they were/are no LESS tolerant of Jews than the average European. And there’s no public display of anti-Semetism in Iceland, unlike, say, Germany and its neo-Nazi fringe, even if they’re repudiated by mainstream political discourse. That distinguishes Iceland from Continental European and Scandinavian attitudes. Of course, the argument could be made that such views are suppressed by social mores, but if it were a significant force, one would expect to see it in some political rhetoric. I’d be very interested if you or someone else could demonstrate this.
Why d oyouask Mr. Mace?
So that you can point me at your website full of links to Judenhasser drivel?
@David – Perhaps it was an idea to read something about what happend with the jews in Denmark under the WWII.
>In addition to that, Iceland supported the Allies in WW II, unlike their then Danish masters. This is because anti-Semitism was and is essentially non-existent as any significant force in Iceland. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
No it didn’t. Both were invaded and occupied by the side that they “supported”. Otherwise they’d both have remained neutral.
As to the antisemitism, I couldn’t say. As an isolated and homogeneous place, which undeniably has had (and still does have) issues with foreigners, I’d be surprised though if they were at any time more tolerant of Jews than the average European.
As an Icelander, I moved to Denmark in the year 2002 because I knew the nation was heading them self in the gutter which came true in 2008, would have happened sooner if 9/11 did not happen. The people then were following like sheeps with the banking ideas of the zionist Rockofeller/Rothschild cartel but nobody really understood what FIAT money is.
Now, Since the begining of 2009, I am smiling for the first time in my life at the actions of my nations government.
So you are a jew Mikizo ?
As a Jew and an anti-Zionist, I commend Össur on his politically incorrect (at least to Americans) yet ethically important decision to bypass Israel completely. There will be no peace in the world until Israel ceases to exist as a Jewish state.
And to anyone who wants to label Icelanders as anti-Semetic, just a quick reminder that the First Lady of Iceland, Dorrit Moussaieff, is an Israeli-born Jew. In fact, in 2006, she created a bit of a row by getting into a heated argument with Israeli customs when trying to leave the country using her British passport instead of her Israeli passport, which she didn’t have, as required by Israeli law. During the argument she was quoted as saying, “This is why people hate Jews.”
In addition to that, Iceland supported the Allies in WW II, unlike their then Danish masters. This is because anti-Semitism was and is essentially non-existent as any significant force in Iceland. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
don’t worry about palestine, one day the rothschild colonies will not exist and that will be a great day for humanity. as sure as night follows day all crusader colonies fade and die..one day the palestinians will come home..still holding their keys, i wish them well..
thank you iceland from the world for standing up to the bankers, you shame britain, france and america and everyone else under the tyranny of private bankers..do not falter, do not give up, stay strong and in any referendums, you must get as many people to vote on anything that protects you from bankers..the power to print money is all they have and money is not a commodity. no one needs what they have, we can make our own.
bravo!
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At best, Skarphedinsson is a self righteous politician, with very little information about the conflict and a tendency to follow trends. At worst, he’s an anti-Semite in disguise. I don’t know which of the above he is, but I have no doubt that he started his trip with a decision to become outraged by something Israelis do. It could be a road block made of stone (would it help if it were made of metal, I don’t know), or the fact that an overworked tired soldier didn’t bow down to his highness.
Take a chill pill, FM.
Iceland – F+++ YEAH!
Rolling boulders across a road, knowing full well it was an international contingent… I remember having that type of mentality in public school. Israel continues to push itself into a corner to ensure they can “justify” their continued genocide and the victim mentality at the same time. Small wonder Hollywood’s “elite” are Zionists. Only they could script this alternate reality the Israeli government seems to live in.
Well done, Iceland. Thank you for once again showing you guys are truly one of the very few bastions of freedom left.
Warm greetings from Canada.
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Hah Israel is made to look a fool again and the truth is slowly feeding out to the world = guaranteed memo to all Israeli news group monitors: go onto the Icelandic newspaper website and write some comments that make Israel look good and deny any of these events took place and we don’t persecute the Palestinian population and rob from their land and deny them basic human rights and created an Apartheid system worse than South Africa. Preferably try and throw holocaust denier in their somewhere and anti-Semite.
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iceland, with every day and in every way, you become more of a beacon for freedom and justice. congratulations.
I would agree with Oystein regarding the common interests of secular Jews and Arabs.
Unfortunately, both Orthodox Jews and Muslim Arabs have become increasingly radicalized over the past decade, making the lives of non-believers increasingly unpleasant and dangerous in many locales (Gaza and Jerusalem provide interesting parallels).
Until Islam successfully reforms (and the struggle in the Arab world is a clash between radical Arab nationalism, Islamic reactionarism and demand for reform) into a peaceful culture (and learning from recent history in Europe, evolution to a peaceful culture may require devastation on an apocalyptic scale) – anyone who is not an Islamic fundamentalist must stand firm (and try to find common ground).
these zionists thugs are totally dehumanized, they have no morals, no shame, no compassion they only know evil
It is so sad to see the young people in the modern world who are of Jewish Khazarian descent, so unaware of their own people’s quite interesting and proud history, going on and on about “anti-Semitism” and their biblical right to a land their ancestors had never originated from. If the biblical right of eternal residence in the land of the Canaanites had actually historically been awarded to the people of the tribal confederation called “Israel” by a formerly and adopted Canaanite deity named Yahweh, then historically, and biblically-speaking, you would find that the actual heirs to the land, i.e. the genetic descendants of the people of the northern kingdom of Israel who were deported by the Assyrian king Shalmaneser V in 722 BCE to Assyria and western Iran, are to still be found in the honoured and protected modern Jewish community of Iran, a country which the non-Semitic, Khazarian/Ashkenazim state of “Israel” wants to essentially wipe off the face of the earth with American nuclear weapons – the irony and insanity of it all.
And regarding the historical Palestinian/Arab ethnic length of residency thing, which even Golda Meir from Chicago seemed to have been unaware of, despite the excellent, contemporary Near Eastern scholarship occurring in her time, the name Palestine is derived from the name the Assyrian kings called it in the Semitic Akkadian language – “Palashtu,” a name which was derived from the name the Egyptians called these sea people, the Peleset, who had settled in the mid-12th century BCE in the coastal strip of the eastern Mediterranean which came to be called Philistia, the land of the Philistinians. That would be roughly 3,500 years ago. From the Assyrian records of Sargon II, it is also known that the original Assyrian deportation from Arabia and resettlement of Arabian tribespeople in Samaria, the Land of Omri, i.e., the northern kingdom of Israel, was in 715 BCE; that would be exactly 2,726 years ago. So whether you call them Arabs or Palestinians, these folks have serious RESIDENCY RIGHTS, and it is about time that the Eastern European/Central Asian people whose pagan ancestors converted to Judaism in the eighth century AD, and who have steadily immigrated into Palestine during the 20th century and beyond, believing themselves to be descendants of the biblical Judahites or Israelites, finally recognize the rights of the actually SEMITIC, MILLENIALLY INDIGENOUS PEOPLE of Palashtu/Palestina/Palestine, a land that no god gave to no one, no how.
God as a real estate broker – such utter ignorant Blasphemy!
Matt and Daniel, quit your pointless kvetching. Nobody believes your hasbara any more.
“israel” and its apartheid regime will have to leave Palestine. They have demonstrated themselves to be unfit, illegal and racist. I hope they pay full reparations for the damage they have perpetrated.
Here’s a map of Palestine before the terrorist “israelis” arrived:
http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com/photolib/maps/Map%20of%20Palestine%201898.htm
I’m with the PM. “Team Iceland – F**k, Yea”
Heia Island.
Greatings from the old world, and a note to everybody on that Island, your cojones(pardon sisters, its just a analogy) are getting bigger and bigger every year.
Never maind the bollox from the heep of sh**heads caled “freinds of Israel”, we are grown ups, and the Islandic people have showed us that.
Grawl back to the rock from where you came from; ex russians and shutt up, over 60 years of terror from Israel, it has to stop.
This may come as a suprise on almoust everybody(me incl) that a tiny Island in the north Atlantic ocean, became a leading star, for a majorety of countrys that are fighting for freedom.
Freedom from goverment opresion and banking ind. fraud and greed.
Israelis are just a criminal country, killing inocents and created the biggest concemtration camp in the world, Palestina.
While Israel is digging it self deeper and deeper into their own propaganda and lies, a pathetic people that have only violence left.
And they even brag about killing 2 with 1 bullet.
And this pathetic creatures cal them selfs, menn.
pfyh.
PS: “freinds of Israel” prove me wrong on this.
http://www.biblestudysite.com/factsarefacts.htm
Iceland citizens and their government are amazing. They first told the banksters to get loss, then told the IFM to get loss, now they couragesly tell the world that the people of Palestine are to be respected by supporting statehood.
Whatever is in the waters of Iceland, send it to American politicians…all of them.
Congratulations to people of Iceland.
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My theory is that the secular jews will need to unite more and more with secular palestines, as the ortodochs jews probably in relative few years (one generation) will be a much more threatend to the secular Israel state the ordinary palestine people.
It is said that Israel need an enemy to exists. The problem rise to a new dimension when more and more jews clash together as in Jerusalem, an nobody can blame the palestines for that conflict.
First the Icelanders kiss off the fraudulent bankers, then stand up to criminals and jail the fraudulent. They are self-righteous, good people.
Of course, they will be labeled anti-semites, a race-baiting term used by those who claim to be semites (but are not) to forestall debate by those who tell the truth about those who claim to be semites.
My 4yo daughter seems to have more knowledge in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict then Mr. Skarphedinsson. Putting him as a FM is like electing an armless man for your basketball team.
I really hope other Icelandic people that express their views regarding this conflict are more intelligent…
First the Icelanders jail their criminal bankers and now they show the courage to face down the injustices perpetrated by the Israeli state.
Well done Iceland!
And one question to Mikizo, when will Israel declare its borders?
Regarding Matt’s commentary–If anyboby forced me off my property and they called it now their homeland because some god said so—I’d sure do alot more than consider suicide to get even. I’d take a page from MOSSAD– as likely attack Israel Firster West Politicians , who be very cautious seen in public.
Muslims are peaceful people,some risk their lives for their country–you dummy.
P.S. and I ain’t one of them
Would you have expected anything less from thw world’s #1 PARIAH STATE?
Sorry to inform you but this statement is dead wrong “Skarphedinsson met with Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas and aides: Abbas IS NOT the President of Palestine (*Mahmoud Abbas’ term as President expired 15 January 2009:^(
Megaphonie alert! Megaphonie alert! Quick demonize the PM as an anti-semite terrorist supporter, or else the world will realize we are the new nazis! We’ll have our chosenite buddies in Hollowood make another hollowhoax movie to pull on the already frayed heart strings of the world. Deception and lies are the jews friends.
Over 60 percent of the suicide bombers came from Qalqylie. The victims from those bombers were mainly women and children, the majority of whom were killed outright, the rest maimed for life. Something tells me that the minister’s visit would have gone a lot more smoothly, had he chosen to visit some of these families.
Does Mr. Skarphedinsson not know how to read a map?
How could he take a “protracted route” which “avoided Israel” from Ramallah to Gaza, without going to Jordan, then to Egypt and the to Gaza?
I was also surprised by his support of a Palestinian state within its “1967 borders”. Can Mr. Skarphedinsson tell anyone what the borders of the “Palestinian state” were in 1967?
What was its capital city, its form of government, its last Prime Minister, President, King?
Since a “Palestinian” state has never existed, and the “Palestinian nation” appeared in the 1960’s, I hope that Mr. Skarphedinsson’s knowledge of foreign affairs is better than his understanding of geography or history.
It’s a shame that Mr. Skarphedinsson and his government choose to support a people whose elected government in Gaza is lead by a genocidal terrorist organization and whose unelected (and way past expiration date) government in Ramallah is headed by the infamous Dr. of Holocaust Denial, Mr. Mahmoud Abbas.
Perhaps the UK government showed ironic prescience when it chose to invoke anti-terrorism laws to freeze Icelandic assets …