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	<title>Comments on: LSE professor wants Icesave mediator</title>
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		<title>By: Jimbo (original Jim)</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2010/02/08/lse-professor-wants-icesave-mediator/#comment-113809</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimbo (original Jim)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Icelandic government should employ Max Clifford!</description>
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		<title>By: Bromley86</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2010/02/08/lse-professor-wants-icesave-mediator/#comment-113750</link>
		<dc:creator>Bromley86</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;“Jaw jaw is better than war war ” – Winston Churchill.&lt;/i&gt;

Given the date of that quote, I think it&#039;s fair to say that he was referring to the Soviet Union.  I suspect Winston would be a little more bullish when the risks of war-war are almost entirely bourne by the other side :) .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>“Jaw jaw is better than war war ” – Winston Churchill.</i></p>
<p>Given the date of that quote, I think it&#8217;s fair to say that he was referring to the Soviet Union.  I suspect Winston would be a little more bullish when the risks of war-war are almost entirely bourne by the other side :) .</p>
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		<title>By: Axel</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2010/02/08/lse-professor-wants-icesave-mediator/#comment-113749</link>
		<dc:creator>Axel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One specialist is already here and another one on his way, both from Canada.

http://blogs.ft.com/economistsforum/2010/02/icesave-a-potential-solution/

If Norway wants to help us out they could buy assets from Landsbanki to speed up the sale process, there are some good bits in the collection, like a 40% stake in Iceland foods Ltd for example,
the money from the assets would collect interests to counter the  3,38% interests UK and NL are paying for the loan they took to pay depositors until the funds could be payed out to UK and NL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One specialist is already here and another one on his way, both from Canada.</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.ft.com/economistsforum/2010/02/icesave-a-potential-solution/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.ft.com/economistsforum/2010/02/icesave-a-potential-solution/</a></p>
<p>If Norway wants to help us out they could buy assets from Landsbanki to speed up the sale process, there are some good bits in the collection, like a 40% stake in Iceland foods Ltd for example,<br />
the money from the assets would collect interests to counter the  3,38% interests UK and NL are paying for the loan they took to pay depositors until the funds could be payed out to UK and NL.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Peter-London

Switzerland and Norway are not in the EU and have experience dealing with the rules for the free trade area. It is expertise that matters. Both countries also have good reputations as negotiators and conciliators.

Is Norway biased? They are willing to loan Iceland money to help with the crisis.

&quot;Jaw jaw is better than war war &quot; - Winston Churchill.

 All sides should keep talking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Peter-London</p>
<p>Switzerland and Norway are not in the EU and have experience dealing with the rules for the free trade area. It is expertise that matters. Both countries also have good reputations as negotiators and conciliators.</p>
<p>Is Norway biased? They are willing to loan Iceland money to help with the crisis.</p>
<p>&#8220;Jaw jaw is better than war war &#8221; &#8211; Winston Churchill.</p>
<p> All sides should keep talking.</p>
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		<title>By: Bromley86</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bromley86</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I was totally with him until he mentioned Alistair Campbell.
&lt;/i&gt;

Campbell was just mentioned briefly, which might not be the impression that you&#039;d get from this IceNews article.

Without re-watching it I can&#039;t be certain, but I&#039;m pretty sure he wasn&#039;t putting Campbell forward as a good choice for Iceland, he was merely giving him as an example of someone with the right skill set.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I was totally with him until he mentioned Alistair Campbell.<br />
</i></p>
<p>Campbell was just mentioned briefly, which might not be the impression that you&#8217;d get from this IceNews article.</p>
<p>Without re-watching it I can&#8217;t be certain, but I&#8217;m pretty sure he wasn&#8217;t putting Campbell forward as a good choice for Iceland, he was merely giving him as an example of someone with the right skill set.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter -London</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2010/02/08/lse-professor-wants-icesave-mediator/#comment-113698</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter -London</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew says:
&quot;Great idea. An arbitrator from Switzerland or Norway would probably be acceptable to the British and Dutch.&quot;

What difference would it make, unless you are suggesting they these two countries would be biased. Well, Norway is probably biased against Iceland due the apparently fact that they have been ripped off by Iceland and Switzerland is probably happy to see the back of a problematic banking nation that sullies their business.

And don&#039;t forget, even when Iceland choose the arbitrators from the EEA to decide on its liability to pay the Icesave depositor protection scheme, it still lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew says:<br />
&#8220;Great idea. An arbitrator from Switzerland or Norway would probably be acceptable to the British and Dutch.&#8221;</p>
<p>What difference would it make, unless you are suggesting they these two countries would be biased. Well, Norway is probably biased against Iceland due the apparently fact that they have been ripped off by Iceland and Switzerland is probably happy to see the back of a problematic banking nation that sullies their business.</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t forget, even when Iceland choose the arbitrators from the EEA to decide on its liability to pay the Icesave depositor protection scheme, it still lost.</p>
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		<title>By: wardropper</title>
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		<dc:creator>wardropper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 01:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was totally with him until he mentioned Alistair Campbell.
I mean, Tony Blair&#039;s spin doctor...???
We need strong, but HONEST representation here in Iceland, thank you very much. &quot;Spin&quot; is just a modern word for professional lying.
Hands up everybody who didn&#039;t know that, and ask Eva Joly what she thinks of that ludicrous suggestion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was totally with him until he mentioned Alistair Campbell.<br />
I mean, Tony Blair&#8217;s spin doctor&#8230;???<br />
We need strong, but HONEST representation here in Iceland, thank you very much. &#8220;Spin&#8221; is just a modern word for professional lying.<br />
Hands up everybody who didn&#8217;t know that, and ask Eva Joly what she thinks of that ludicrous suggestion.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great idea. An arbitrator from Switzerland or Norway would probably be acceptable to the British and Dutch.

Alastair Campbell as the Voice of Iceland? Scary! But very effective...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great idea. An arbitrator from Switzerland or Norway would probably be acceptable to the British and Dutch.</p>
<p>Alastair Campbell as the Voice of Iceland? Scary! But very effective&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Axel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Axel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the problem is that the western financial system is so badly designed that it cant be repaired, so the idiots responsible for this will try to keep it afloat for as long as possible knowing that it will fail, they managed to print their way out last time but when this happens again the whole thing goes tits up,
and given the current state of afairs in Europe and USA the outlook is not good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHsVCE0-smE&amp;NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QKHtW7KtoU&amp;feature=channel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the problem is that the western financial system is so badly designed that it cant be repaired, so the idiots responsible for this will try to keep it afloat for as long as possible knowing that it will fail, they managed to print their way out last time but when this happens again the whole thing goes tits up,<br />
and given the current state of afairs in Europe and USA the outlook is not good.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHsVCE0-smE&#038;NR=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHsVCE0-smE&#038;NR=1</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QKHtW7KtoU&#038;feature=channel" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QKHtW7KtoU&#038;feature=channel</a></p>
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		<title>By: Fisy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fisy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why EU commission was desperate back November to force the kangeroo court ” binding arbitration ” and does not want this in real court or real arbitrator that knows the EU / EFTA law behind the deposit guarantees --

-- since then of course they do not want to go back on what they said then because EU burecracy never goes back on its policy even if it is wrong unless it is dealing with large EU country that has its senior civil serveant in COREPA or is big EU budget net contributor :

“We were a couple of days away from a complete catastrophe which would have been ten times worse than the current situation. The risk of a collapse in the European banking system was high,” admitted Finland’s Finance Minister, Jyrki Katainen, in an interview+ with the Finnish newspaper Savon Sanomat on September 8, 2009.

The decision to sacrifice Iceland probably contributed to saving the EU banking system at the last minute.

Last summer Ingibjörg Sólrún Gísladóttir, who was Iceland’s Foreign Minister at the time when the Icelandic banks fell, said that++ “the main reason why it was not possible to take the matter to the courts was because there could not be any doubt that deposits were guaranteed If it would have been agreed to get a court ruling it would have created a legal uncertainty whether there were any deposits guarantees.”

Gísladóttir said that such uncertainty would have given depositors in Spain, France or elsewhere a reason to doubt the guarantees and withdraw their savings. In other words that there would be run on EU banks.

So in other words Iceland and the Icelandic people were simply sacrificed to save the EU banking system from collapses as a result of a flawed EU legislation which they are not at all responsible for.

+http://www.savonsanomat.fi/uutiset/talous/selkä-seinää-vasten/481252

++http://www.dv.is/frettir/2009/6/24/Ingibjorg_Solrun_Domstolaleidin_er_ranghugmynd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why EU commission was desperate back November to force the kangeroo court ” binding arbitration ” and does not want this in real court or real arbitrator that knows the EU / EFTA law behind the deposit guarantees &#8211;</p>
<p>&#8211; since then of course they do not want to go back on what they said then because EU burecracy never goes back on its policy even if it is wrong unless it is dealing with large EU country that has its senior civil serveant in COREPA or is big EU budget net contributor :</p>
<p>“We were a couple of days away from a complete catastrophe which would have been ten times worse than the current situation. The risk of a collapse in the European banking system was high,” admitted Finland’s Finance Minister, Jyrki Katainen, in an interview+ with the Finnish newspaper Savon Sanomat on September 8, 2009.</p>
<p>The decision to sacrifice Iceland probably contributed to saving the EU banking system at the last minute.</p>
<p>Last summer Ingibjörg Sólrún Gísladóttir, who was Iceland’s Foreign Minister at the time when the Icelandic banks fell, said that++ “the main reason why it was not possible to take the matter to the courts was because there could not be any doubt that deposits were guaranteed If it would have been agreed to get a court ruling it would have created a legal uncertainty whether there were any deposits guarantees.”</p>
<p>Gísladóttir said that such uncertainty would have given depositors in Spain, France or elsewhere a reason to doubt the guarantees and withdraw their savings. In other words that there would be run on EU banks.</p>
<p>So in other words Iceland and the Icelandic people were simply sacrificed to save the EU banking system from collapses as a result of a flawed EU legislation which they are not at all responsible for.</p>
<p>+<a href="http://www.savonsanomat.fi/uutiset/talous/selkä-seinää-vasten/481252" rel="nofollow">http://www.savonsanomat.fi/uutiset/talous/selkä-seinää-vasten/481252</a></p>
<p>++<a href="http://www.dv.is/frettir/2009/6/24/Ingibjorg_Solrun_Domstolaleidin_er_ranghugmynd" rel="nofollow">http://www.dv.is/frettir/2009/6/24/Ingibjorg_Solrun_Domstolaleidin_er_ranghugmynd</a></p>
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