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		<title>By: west</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2010/01/07/latvian-fm-wades-into-icesave-argument/#comment-109806</link>
		<dc:creator>west</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 15:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK Fisy, I guess I really don&#039;t agree with you. Don&#039;t worry about Iceland joining the EU.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK Fisy, I guess I really don&#8217;t agree with you. Don&#8217;t worry about Iceland joining the EU.</p>
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		<title>By: Fisy</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2010/01/07/latvian-fm-wades-into-icesave-argument/#comment-109758</link>
		<dc:creator>Fisy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 08:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;west &#039; did write :
&gt;Fisy, I have to repeat what I said. I actually agreed with some of your comments

west it is so nice that you do agree with me. But what exactly them do you disagree with in my comments ?

I like specifics if we are to have nice civlized discussion that people want to read here.

EU commission like idea of independent Iceland become part of EU because it “prove” that EU is *essential* and that to survive in modern world of globalization must be part of EU.

Iceland in EFTA ( as let us face it UK should be back to EFTA too ) is inconvenient to they view of the world. They must prove that Iceland post 1976 as *idea * cannot exist.

http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/04/29/international-interest-in-iceland’s-eu-position-persists/#comment-74169
http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/04/29/international-interest-in-iceland’s-eu-position-persists/#comment-74262</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;west &#8216; did write :<br />
&gt;Fisy, I have to repeat what I said. I actually agreed with some of your comments</p>
<p>west it is so nice that you do agree with me. But what exactly them do you disagree with in my comments ?</p>
<p>I like specifics if we are to have nice civlized discussion that people want to read here.</p>
<p>EU commission like idea of independent Iceland become part of EU because it “prove” that EU is *essential* and that to survive in modern world of globalization must be part of EU.</p>
<p>Iceland in EFTA ( as let us face it UK should be back to EFTA too ) is inconvenient to they view of the world. They must prove that Iceland post 1976 as *idea * cannot exist.</p>
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		<title>By: west</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2010/01/07/latvian-fm-wades-into-icesave-argument/#comment-109472</link>
		<dc:creator>west</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 16:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Ou you don’t know, latvia are in wery deep houle, deper then island. I’am from latvia, and situation came to worst with every day:(&quot;

My point exactly and the same applies to Lithuania.
Fisy, you shouldn&#039;t worry about Iceland joining the EU.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ou you don’t know, latvia are in wery deep houle, deper then island. I’am from latvia, and situation came to worst with every day:(&#8221;</p>
<p>My point exactly and the same applies to Lithuania.<br />
Fisy, you shouldn&#8217;t worry about Iceland joining the EU.</p>
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		<title>By: Latvian FM wades into Icesave argument &#124; IceNews - Daily News &#124; iceland today</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2010/01/07/latvian-fm-wades-into-icesave-argument/#comment-109460</link>
		<dc:creator>Latvian FM wades into Icesave argument &#124; IceNews - Daily News &#124; iceland today</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 15:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: west</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2010/01/07/latvian-fm-wades-into-icesave-argument/#comment-109449</link>
		<dc:creator>west</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 14:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fisy, I have to repeat what I said. I actually agreed with some of your comments. Read them again. In any case Iceland is not part of the EU, so the EU doesn&#039;t really matter to you.
&quot;I notice a lot of anti-EU rhetoric on this website. Although the EU has way too many politicians and bureaucrats and the EU agricultural subsidies are ridiculous, in general it works well. It also gives Europeans something to do ,complain about the EU, instead of killing each other.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fisy, I have to repeat what I said. I actually agreed with some of your comments. Read them again. In any case Iceland is not part of the EU, so the EU doesn&#8217;t really matter to you.<br />
&#8220;I notice a lot of anti-EU rhetoric on this website. Although the EU has way too many politicians and bureaucrats and the EU agricultural subsidies are ridiculous, in general it works well. It also gives Europeans something to do ,complain about the EU, instead of killing each other.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: &#62;&#62;&#62;west</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2010/01/07/latvian-fm-wades-into-icesave-argument/#comment-109445</link>
		<dc:creator>&#62;&#62;&#62;west</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 13:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ou you don&#039;t know, latvia are in wery deep houle, deper then island. I&#039;am from latvia, and situation came to worst with every day:(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ou you don&#8217;t know, latvia are in wery deep houle, deper then island. I&#8217;am from latvia, and situation came to worst with every day:(</p>
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		<title>By: Fisy</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2010/01/07/latvian-fm-wades-into-icesave-argument/#comment-109444</link>
		<dc:creator>Fisy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 13:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;The loan is optional, Iceland is free to get a loan elsewhere at far higher rates if interest.

The UK and Holland did make this payout to they depositor on our TIF ( 94/19/EC guarantee fund )&#039;s behalf without asking first.

Then they did set the terms of loaning the money back to us. That we would pay them back was agreed in Novembmer 2008 in principle but &quot; negotations &quot; did take all the way through to May 2009 before we all found out what the terms were.

Regarding this loan made, Bjarni does make this clear analogy :

&quot; ..your two neighbors made an agreement with your bank, without getting prior written authorization to you, that you in case of their bankruptcy, you would guarantee their payments also, even if your own house was burned down recently by your son. The bank is threatening to bankrupt you and your children, unless you sign a new loan to cover the neighbors losses also. &quot;

http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2010/01/06/iceland-president’s-icesave-decision-drawing-harsh-international-response/#comment-109219

It is well worth the time to read that post and Bajrni&#039;s later comments detailed in it. I think many people will find new facts and understandings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;The loan is optional, Iceland is free to get a loan elsewhere at far higher rates if interest.</p>
<p>The UK and Holland did make this payout to they depositor on our TIF ( 94/19/EC guarantee fund )&#8217;s behalf without asking first.</p>
<p>Then they did set the terms of loaning the money back to us. That we would pay them back was agreed in Novembmer 2008 in principle but &#8221; negotations &#8221; did take all the way through to May 2009 before we all found out what the terms were.</p>
<p>Regarding this loan made, Bjarni does make this clear analogy :</p>
<p>&#8221; ..your two neighbors made an agreement with your bank, without getting prior written authorization to you, that you in case of their bankruptcy, you would guarantee their payments also, even if your own house was burned down recently by your son. The bank is threatening to bankrupt you and your children, unless you sign a new loan to cover the neighbors losses also. &#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2010/01/06/iceland-president’s-icesave-decision-drawing-harsh-international-response/#comment-109219" rel="nofollow">http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2010/01/06/iceland-president’s-icesave-decision-drawing-harsh-international-response/#comment-109219</a></p>
<p>It is well worth the time to read that post and Bajrni&#8217;s later comments detailed in it. I think many people will find new facts and understandings.</p>
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		<title>By: petros (from Greece)</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2010/01/07/latvian-fm-wades-into-icesave-argument/#comment-109439</link>
		<dc:creator>petros (from Greece)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 12:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter let&#039;s forget if it&#039;s Icelanders fault or not. There is a saying &quot;you cannot take anything from somebody that has nothing to give&quot;

So everything comes down to the question: Is Iceland able to pay back?  Of course the creditors want their money back as soon as possible, even if in the process the country will be destroyed. (That&#039;s what the IMF usually does) 

In my view the involved parties have two paths to go. Either they will agree on a repayment scheme that will be viable for Iceland, or Iceland will default (as many countries did in the past) and will try to rebuild it&#039;s economy by its own means while reducing greatly its imports.

I&#039;m sure you support the former path no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter let&#8217;s forget if it&#8217;s Icelanders fault or not. There is a saying &#8220;you cannot take anything from somebody that has nothing to give&#8221;</p>
<p>So everything comes down to the question: Is Iceland able to pay back?  Of course the creditors want their money back as soon as possible, even if in the process the country will be destroyed. (That&#8217;s what the IMF usually does) </p>
<p>In my view the involved parties have two paths to go. Either they will agree on a repayment scheme that will be viable for Iceland, or Iceland will default (as many countries did in the past) and will try to rebuild it&#8217;s economy by its own means while reducing greatly its imports.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure you support the former path no?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter - London</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter - London</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 11:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;UK can go to hell for what it has done.&quot;

You mean allowing its citizens to be robbed of £3billion++ and then demanding thats Iceland treats its depositors exactly the same as Icelanders, fulfil the legal obligations and pay the guarantee?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;UK can go to hell for what it has done.&#8221;</p>
<p>You mean allowing its citizens to be robbed of £3billion++ and then demanding thats Iceland treats its depositors exactly the same as Icelanders, fulfil the legal obligations and pay the guarantee?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 09:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anybody really care about the EU or UK for that matter?. EU is a joke both in Europe and around the world. UK can go to hell for what it has done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anybody really care about the EU or UK for that matter?. EU is a joke both in Europe and around the world. UK can go to hell for what it has done.</p>
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