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		<title>By: Visit.is &#187; Iceland opposition leader ramps up pressure on spcial prosecutor</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/12/10/icelandic-opposition-leader-denies-macau-corruption-allegations/#comment-235882</link>
		<dc:creator>Visit.is &#187; Iceland opposition leader ramps up pressure on spcial prosecutor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2010 11:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Icelandic opposition leader denies Macau corruption allegations [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bromley86</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/12/10/icelandic-opposition-leader-denies-macau-corruption-allegations/#comment-105540</link>
		<dc:creator>Bromley86</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;My point Brumley is that before you actually post comment about something you should read into actual facts of case. And debate on those facts.

Fine, but I don&#039;t think MBL has a English page.  Anyway, my point was that MBL isn&#039;t really somewhere you&#039;d ever have gone to to get the truth on the leader of IP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;My point Brumley is that before you actually post comment about something you should read into actual facts of case. And debate on those facts.</p>
<p>Fine, but I don&#8217;t think MBL has a English page.  Anyway, my point was that MBL isn&#8217;t really somewhere you&#8217;d ever have gone to to get the truth on the leader of IP.</p>
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		<title>By: Fisy</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/12/10/icelandic-opposition-leader-denies-macau-corruption-allegations/#comment-105518</link>
		<dc:creator>Fisy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike (UK Nordic analyst) said:
&gt;Fisy – so why doesn’t he sue?

At last an intelligent comment in this thread.

Unlike UK where libel laws are easier  I doubt that what is said in the DV article is grounds for libel under Icelandic laws of reputation.

It does state some facts. Instead it is the headlines and writeup of news wire like ones here at IceNews that are based on it where problem arrises.

It is like I would suppose in UK either The Sun article or Daily Mail article. Both known for writing about a subject in such way that it is not libelous but  it is misleading and smearing.

Take for example how Joanna Lumley and the Gurkha Justice Group was smeared in the sun recently. It was not that they print huge untruths just that through the writing they do put focus on the wrong things.

There was this great English film of 1980s called &quot; How to get ahead in advetising &quot;  that you may remember,  that did cover this exact issue of tabloid writing in the speech on the train &quot; The distortion of truth by association &quot;, read here:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097531/quotes

It is the &quot;Businessman on Train &quot; part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike (UK Nordic analyst) said:<br />
&gt;Fisy – so why doesn’t he sue?</p>
<p>At last an intelligent comment in this thread.</p>
<p>Unlike UK where libel laws are easier  I doubt that what is said in the DV article is grounds for libel under Icelandic laws of reputation.</p>
<p>It does state some facts. Instead it is the headlines and writeup of news wire like ones here at IceNews that are based on it where problem arrises.</p>
<p>It is like I would suppose in UK either The Sun article or Daily Mail article. Both known for writing about a subject in such way that it is not libelous but  it is misleading and smearing.</p>
<p>Take for example how Joanna Lumley and the Gurkha Justice Group was smeared in the sun recently. It was not that they print huge untruths just that through the writing they do put focus on the wrong things.</p>
<p>There was this great English film of 1980s called &#8221; How to get ahead in advetising &#8221;  that you may remember,  that did cover this exact issue of tabloid writing in the speech on the train &#8221; The distortion of truth by association &#8220;, read here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097531/quotes" rel="nofollow">http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097531/quotes</a></p>
<p>It is the &#8220;Businessman on Train &#8221; part.</p>
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		<title>By: Fisy</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/12/10/icelandic-opposition-leader-denies-macau-corruption-allegations/#comment-105499</link>
		<dc:creator>Fisy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter - London you do not seem to know difference between ad hominem and humour.

But none of postings in this thread does change situation with this smear story in DV.

Facts show Bjarni Ben&#039;s &quot;  ties to the Macau property speculation &quot; are tenuous. So tenuous in fact as only to be of interest to tabloid like DV.

My point Brumley is that before you actually post comment about something you should read into actual facts of case. And debate on those facts.

It is clear that you are not going to get those from IceNews post alone. If you are to comment it seem to be important to know just what actually the facts of this case are.

Silly ad hominem postings like first 7 in this thread ( not including mine of course ) have nothing to do with the actual allegations made by DV and press at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter &#8211; London you do not seem to know difference between ad hominem and humour.</p>
<p>But none of postings in this thread does change situation with this smear story in DV.</p>
<p>Facts show Bjarni Ben&#8217;s &#8221;  ties to the Macau property speculation &#8221; are tenuous. So tenuous in fact as only to be of interest to tabloid like DV.</p>
<p>My point Brumley is that before you actually post comment about something you should read into actual facts of case. And debate on those facts.</p>
<p>It is clear that you are not going to get those from IceNews post alone. If you are to comment it seem to be important to know just what actually the facts of this case are.</p>
<p>Silly ad hominem postings like first 7 in this thread ( not including mine of course ) have nothing to do with the actual allegations made by DV and press at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter - London</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/12/10/icelandic-opposition-leader-denies-macau-corruption-allegations/#comment-105468</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter - London</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dec 10, 2009, Fisy said:

&quot;Hey guys less of the ad hominems.&quot;

Dec 10, 2009, Fisy said: 
&quot;But if it is then congratulation Gus on getting self a nice new girl friend that does give meds on time and type for you.&quot;

Yet *another* example of the **** you come out with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dec 10, 2009, Fisy said:</p>
<p>&#8220;Hey guys less of the ad hominems.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dec 10, 2009, Fisy said:<br />
&#8220;But if it is then congratulation Gus on getting self a nice new girl friend that does give meds on time and type for you.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yet *another* example of the **** you come out with.</p>
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		<title>By: Bromley86</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/12/10/icelandic-opposition-leader-denies-macau-corruption-allegations/#comment-105425</link>
		<dc:creator>Bromley86</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;I am sure that being experts you are about this one you have already read this articel :

Yep, as well as Google can handle (which pretty much means that I&#039;m not wiser than I was before I read the IceNews article :) ).  I didn&#039;t notice the use of the expression &quot;collpase&quot; once, so Alda must be wrong and MBL must still be a beacon of purity.  Wait, silly me, she didn&#039;t say that it ever was :) .

And nice to see that Mike can post one-liners.  Not, I should say, that I don&#039;t appreciate his in-depth posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;I am sure that being experts you are about this one you have already read this articel :</p>
<p>Yep, as well as Google can handle (which pretty much means that I&#8217;m not wiser than I was before I read the IceNews article :) ).  I didn&#8217;t notice the use of the expression &#8220;collpase&#8221; once, so Alda must be wrong and MBL must still be a beacon of purity.  Wait, silly me, she didn&#8217;t say that it ever was :) .</p>
<p>And nice to see that Mike can post one-liners.  Not, I should say, that I don&#8217;t appreciate his in-depth posts.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike (UK Nordic analyst)</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/12/10/icelandic-opposition-leader-denies-macau-corruption-allegations/#comment-105418</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike (UK Nordic analyst)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fisy - so why doesn&#039;t he sue?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fisy &#8211; so why doesn&#8217;t he sue?</p>
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		<title>By: Axel</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/12/10/icelandic-opposition-leader-denies-macau-corruption-allegations/#comment-105411</link>
		<dc:creator>Axel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ownership of the Macau tower is Drakensberg Investments Limited British Virgin islands 100%
that company is owned by SJ Properties MacauOneCentral Holdco ehf 100%
that company is owned by Vafningur ehf 100%</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ownership of the Macau tower is Drakensberg Investments Limited British Virgin islands 100%<br />
that company is owned by SJ Properties MacauOneCentral Holdco ehf 100%<br />
that company is owned by Vafningur ehf 100%</p>
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		<title>By: icelandbob</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/12/10/icelandic-opposition-leader-denies-macau-corruption-allegations/#comment-105406</link>
		<dc:creator>icelandbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ðeter - London
&quot;Fisy is an IP devotee and a ‘fan’ of the brilliant, profitable, well run Kaputhing Bank&quot;

Or otherwise known as people who are on kleppur Day release</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ðeter &#8211; London<br />
&#8220;Fisy is an IP devotee and a ‘fan’ of the brilliant, profitable, well run Kaputhing Bank&#8221;</p>
<p>Or otherwise known as people who are on kleppur Day release</p>
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		<title>By: Fisy</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/12/10/icelandic-opposition-leader-denies-macau-corruption-allegations/#comment-105403</link>
		<dc:creator>Fisy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys less of the ad hominems.

I am sure that being experts you are about this one you have already read this articel :

http://mbl.is/mm/vidskipti/frettir/2009/12/10/kvedst_ekki_hafa_braskad_neitt/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys less of the ad hominems.</p>
<p>I am sure that being experts you are about this one you have already read this articel :</p>
<p><a href="http://mbl.is/mm/vidskipti/frettir/2009/12/10/kvedst_ekki_hafa_braskad_neitt/" rel="nofollow">http://mbl.is/mm/vidskipti/frettir/2009/12/10/kvedst_ekki_hafa_braskad_neitt/</a></p>
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