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		<title>By: Ian Naismith</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/11/23/kaupthing-employee-accused-of-stealing-millions/#comment-107022</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Naismith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 12:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A secretary of Goldman Sachs stole 5 Million Pounds out of her boss&#039; personal account.

Sometimes this makes you wonder how much these people have in their accounts if they can&#039;t miss 5 Million.

But such behaviour is becoming more widespread.

Ian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A secretary of Goldman Sachs stole 5 Million Pounds out of her boss&#8217; personal account.</p>
<p>Sometimes this makes you wonder how much these people have in their accounts if they can&#8217;t miss 5 Million.</p>
<p>But such behaviour is becoming more widespread.</p>
<p>Ian.</p>
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		<title>By: More and more employees are stealing! &#171; Christian Business Ethics</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/11/23/kaupthing-employee-accused-of-stealing-millions/#comment-104954</link>
		<dc:creator>More and more employees are stealing! &#171; Christian Business Ethics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 08:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Kaupthing Employees Accused of Stealing Millions [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Fisy</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/11/23/kaupthing-employee-accused-of-stealing-millions/#comment-103453</link>
		<dc:creator>Fisy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know I will Brumley when I am ready. First there are other post to reply to that I just found.

If new IceNews system is to be upgraded I look forward to it so I can locate post by searching based on the user  that did post and not rely on this in complete Google searching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know I will Brumley when I am ready. First there are other post to reply to that I just found.</p>
<p>If new IceNews system is to be upgraded I look forward to it so I can locate post by searching based on the user  that did post and not rely on this in complete Google searching.</p>
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		<title>By: Bromley86</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/11/23/kaupthing-employee-accused-of-stealing-millions/#comment-103404</link>
		<dc:creator>Bromley86</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 09:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;For ” quiet ” read busy with in real life stuff.

Understood, but you&#039;re not busy now.  Feel free to make your case.  Here you go:

http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/10/21/kaupthing-loses-claim-against-british-government/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;For ” quiet ” read busy with in real life stuff.</p>
<p>Understood, but you&#8217;re not busy now.  Feel free to make your case.  Here you go:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/10/21/kaupthing-loses-claim-against-british-government/" rel="nofollow">http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/10/21/kaupthing-loses-claim-against-british-government/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Fisy</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/11/23/kaupthing-employee-accused-of-stealing-millions/#comment-103347</link>
		<dc:creator>Fisy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brumley wrote :
&gt;Which of course is the exact opposite of the result of the case. Nice try Fisy. You were unusually quiet at the time the news broke on that one.

For &quot; quiet &quot; read busy with in real life stuff.

But of course you know that the detailed transcripts of case support what I have been saying here on boards about Kautphing case for over a year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brumley wrote :<br />
&gt;Which of course is the exact opposite of the result of the case. Nice try Fisy. You were unusually quiet at the time the news broke on that one.</p>
<p>For &#8221; quiet &#8221; read busy with in real life stuff.</p>
<p>But of course you know that the detailed transcripts of case support what I have been saying here on boards about Kautphing case for over a year.</p>
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		<title>By: Fisy</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/11/23/kaupthing-employee-accused-of-stealing-millions/#comment-103346</link>
		<dc:creator>Fisy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;The Mail comes to the rescue with a long, rambling account of that one Fisy.

As I said Brumley, both situation show a failure of internal bank controls. This kind thing happens unfortunately at all larger banks and is more common than might first expect -- as subjct of article says:

&quot;How did bank manager who stole £21m [from RBS ] get away with it so long?&quot;

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-392894/How-did-bank-manager-stole-21m-away-long.html#ixzz0Y0yPGpNp

&quot;The actual loss ? in real cash paid out ? is still a staggering £10million [to RBS], and the bank estimates that, as the manipulation of funds was so complex and intricate, as much as £4 million may never be recouped.
..
Many recipients were businesses which, although genuine, might not have qualified for the kind of handouts Mackenzie was rubber-stamping.
Why did Mackenzie bend the rules for them when he didn&#039;t have to? Every lie, every bogus transaction, increased the likelihood of his being caught, but, at the same time, his fraudulent activities earned him performance-related bonuses and brought him the &#039;Business Manager of the Year&#039; accolade for 2002, 2003 and 2004.

He began to enjoy his new status; he had joined the bank as a 19-year-old, now, finally, he was &#039;somebody&#039; ? as long as he didn&#039;t get caught.

And so Mackenzie devised an ingenious system of manipulating the bank loan process by creating false accounts in names similar to those of genuine customers. For example, the fictitious John T. Steal instead of the real John T. Steale.

When customers like &#039;Mr Steal&#039; &#039;applied&#039; for a loan, Mackenzie would omit the business lending code from the paperwork, ensuring applications did not go to a separate department, whose job it was to approve such loans. Mackenzie regularly used 70 such accounts and, at one point, 1,200 were in existence.
..
The fraud started in 1999, the year after Mackenzie was married to Margaret Colthard, who worked as a personal credit adviser at the same branch. Not once did Mackenzie let his guard slip in front of her ? she never suspected. Donald Mackenzie&#039;s extraordinary double life continued for five years.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;The Mail comes to the rescue with a long, rambling account of that one Fisy.</p>
<p>As I said Brumley, both situation show a failure of internal bank controls. This kind thing happens unfortunately at all larger banks and is more common than might first expect &#8212; as subjct of article says:</p>
<p>&#8220;How did bank manager who stole £21m [from RBS ] get away with it so long?&#8221;</p>
<p>Read more: <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-392894/How-did-bank-manager-stole-21m-away-long.html#ixzz0Y0yPGpNp" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-392894/How-did-bank-manager-stole-21m-away-long.html#ixzz0Y0yPGpNp</a></p>
<p>&#8220;The actual loss ? in real cash paid out ? is still a staggering £10million [to RBS], and the bank estimates that, as the manipulation of funds was so complex and intricate, as much as £4 million may never be recouped.<br />
..<br />
Many recipients were businesses which, although genuine, might not have qualified for the kind of handouts Mackenzie was rubber-stamping.<br />
Why did Mackenzie bend the rules for them when he didn&#8217;t have to? Every lie, every bogus transaction, increased the likelihood of his being caught, but, at the same time, his fraudulent activities earned him performance-related bonuses and brought him the &#8216;Business Manager of the Year&#8217; accolade for 2002, 2003 and 2004.</p>
<p>He began to enjoy his new status; he had joined the bank as a 19-year-old, now, finally, he was &#8216;somebody&#8217; ? as long as he didn&#8217;t get caught.</p>
<p>And so Mackenzie devised an ingenious system of manipulating the bank loan process by creating false accounts in names similar to those of genuine customers. For example, the fictitious John T. Steal instead of the real John T. Steale.</p>
<p>When customers like &#8216;Mr Steal&#8217; &#8216;applied&#8217; for a loan, Mackenzie would omit the business lending code from the paperwork, ensuring applications did not go to a separate department, whose job it was to approve such loans. Mackenzie regularly used 70 such accounts and, at one point, 1,200 were in existence.<br />
..<br />
The fraud started in 1999, the year after Mackenzie was married to Margaret Colthard, who worked as a personal credit adviser at the same branch. Not once did Mackenzie let his guard slip in front of her ? she never suspected. Donald Mackenzie&#8217;s extraordinary double life continued for five years.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: SIR EURO IS BACK</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/11/23/kaupthing-employee-accused-of-stealing-millions/#comment-103084</link>
		<dc:creator>SIR EURO IS BACK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IS IT TRUE? DID I DREAM IT? WILL ICELAND WAKE FROM THIS PAIN?? 

FALLING OUT OF A PERFECT DREAMMM.... COMING OUT OF THE BLUEEEEE...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IS IT TRUE? DID I DREAM IT? WILL ICELAND WAKE FROM THIS PAIN?? </p>
<p>FALLING OUT OF A PERFECT DREAMMM&#8230;. COMING OUT OF THE BLUEEEEE&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SIR EURO IS BACK</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/11/23/kaupthing-employee-accused-of-stealing-millions/#comment-103082</link>
		<dc:creator>SIR EURO IS BACK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WELL, BANKS DON´T WANT THESE ISSUES TO BE MADE PUBLIC... BECAUSE THEY DAMAGE THE TRUST PEOPLE HAVE ON BANKS... 

AS I SAID IN MANY OF MY &quot;HILARIOUS&quot; AND &quot;CRAZY&quot; COMMENTS PRODUCT OF MY MIND JUST VOMITING THINGS: ICELANDIC BANKS ARE LIKE THE CAVE OF ALI-BABA AND THE 40 ROBBERS....

IS IT TRUE? IS IT OVERRRR?? 

SO TELL ME ABOUT THE RUMORS, ARE THEY ONLY RUMORS?
ARE THEY ONLY LIES?

FALLING OUT OF A PERFECT DREAM...COMING OUT OF THE BLUEEEEE

IS IT TRUE?
IS IT OVER?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WELL, BANKS DON´T WANT THESE ISSUES TO BE MADE PUBLIC&#8230; BECAUSE THEY DAMAGE THE TRUST PEOPLE HAVE ON BANKS&#8230; </p>
<p>AS I SAID IN MANY OF MY &#8220;HILARIOUS&#8221; AND &#8220;CRAZY&#8221; COMMENTS PRODUCT OF MY MIND JUST VOMITING THINGS: ICELANDIC BANKS ARE LIKE THE CAVE OF ALI-BABA AND THE 40 ROBBERS&#8230;.</p>
<p>IS IT TRUE? IS IT OVERRRR?? </p>
<p>SO TELL ME ABOUT THE RUMORS, ARE THEY ONLY RUMORS?<br />
ARE THEY ONLY LIES?</p>
<p>FALLING OUT OF A PERFECT DREAM&#8230;COMING OUT OF THE BLUEEEEE</p>
<p>IS IT TRUE?<br />
IS IT OVER?</p>
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		<title>By: Kaupthing employee accused of stealing millions &#124; IceNews - Daily News &#124; iceland today</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/11/23/kaupthing-employee-accused-of-stealing-millions/#comment-103021</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaupthing employee accused of stealing millions &#124; IceNews - Daily News &#124; iceland today</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] More: Kaupthing employee accused of stealing millions &#124; IceNews - Daily News [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] More: Kaupthing employee accused of stealing millions | IceNews &#8211; Daily News [...]</p>
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		<title>By: arctic</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/11/23/kaupthing-employee-accused-of-stealing-millions/#comment-102995</link>
		<dc:creator>arctic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Four million dollars - wahts the big fuss Thats small change compared to what people in positions stole from banks. I guess she just took what she needed in these harsh times before the money isn&#039;t worth anything. Of course, until she has been proven guilty she is to be viewed as innocent, that shouldnt be forgotten. although feelings are tense and people are looking for scape goats. My opinion is, teh governments are anyway running into astronomic debts everywhere these days. why not pay every citizen a sum of lets say four million dollars and see waht happens ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Four million dollars &#8211; wahts the big fuss Thats small change compared to what people in positions stole from banks. I guess she just took what she needed in these harsh times before the money isn&#8217;t worth anything. Of course, until she has been proven guilty she is to be viewed as innocent, that shouldnt be forgotten. although feelings are tense and people are looking for scape goats. My opinion is, teh governments are anyway running into astronomic debts everywhere these days. why not pay every citizen a sum of lets say four million dollars and see waht happens ?</p>
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