Comments on: Iceland holds national meeting

By: blahbleh

blahbleh — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:07:42 +0000

naive perhaps, but i’ts a start, and a start for people in power to take notice, because what has happened isn’t exactly going down well, rules must change.

By: Alexander E.

Alexander E. — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:49:29 +0000

My opinion to the “results” of this Assembly in short- LOL.
Naive at its best…

By: Fisy

Fisy — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:27:20 +0000

http://www.thjodfundur2009.is/english/

Nice creative presentation of website and hall course but would expect no less from Icelanders.

>“The purpose was to hear the voice of the people and we think that the results reflect that.” said Larus Ymir Oskarsson, one of the spokesmen of the National Assembly, which took place at the Laugardalsholl today.

The voice of the people currently is heard most loudly come from these things called elections.

Second to that is coming from this things called referendums ( or ” the direct democracy of the plebiscite ” ).

Social Democrats did like the elections when they did opportunistically break they coalition end of January with Independence Party.

But now they do not want another one for 5 years.

And they certainly do not what referendum like they should have given for EU member ship joining.

So instead of those kinds of things we have this ” Þjóðfundar ” focus group instead.

Not exactly a meaning full subsitut is it ?

By: Fisy

Fisy — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:16:23 +0000

Jim wrote :
>More precisely, it effectively elicits a set of estimates that, when averaged, tend to accurately predict a variable’s true value. Obtaining an accurate quantitative estimate is, however, very different from the qualitative topics in this national meeting.

Yes I think this is some thing we can agree on.

This is one big focus group / opinion polling get together.

Which is not what this Anthill has been put across as being for. But that’s all it is.

By: Jim

Jim — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:20:38 +0000

Balkanson – So, the meeting reminded you of Bakunin’s anarcho-collectivism?

By: Balkanson

Balkanson — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:53:47 +0000

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Bakunin

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By: Bromley86

Bromley86 — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:20:40 +0000

>@Bromley – Flygill is a horse.

That would explain it. I doubt there was anything in there about extra oats for all.

I’m waiting to see a detailed English report, but from the first results it does appear to be a bit of a fluffy love-fest. Still, maybe it will inspire people.
http://www.thjodfundur2009.is/english/

By: Jim

Jim — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:23:23 +0000

I enjoyed reading the opinions here on the ant analogy. To me, its weakness is that “wisdom of crowds” model works best for optimising an estimate of a variable’s true value. More precisely, it effectively elicits a set of estimates that, when averaged, tend to accurately predict a variable’s true value. Obtaining an accurate quantitative estimate is, however, very different from the qualitative topics in this national meeting. This doesn’t mean the meeting’s methods were poor, but it does mean that the ant analogy was a little overextended. Focusing on ants is a distraction!

By: Øystein; Norway

Øystein; Norway — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:52:49 +0000

@Bromley – Flygill is a horse.