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	<title>Comments on: Increased EU behaviour monitoring leads to Orwellian fears</title>
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		<title>By: densou</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/10/30/increased-eu-behaviour-monitoring-leads-to-orwellian-fears/#comment-99410</link>
		<dc:creator>densou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do I have to read each time &#039;Orwell-like&#039; about security fears ?
&#039;1984&#039; is a piece of cake compared to &#039;We&#039; (Russian novel - best dystopian novel so far) of which Orwell took its inspiration ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do I have to read each time &#8216;Orwell-like&#8217; about security fears ?<br />
&#8217;1984&#8242; is a piece of cake compared to &#8216;We&#8217; (Russian novel &#8211; best dystopian novel so far) of which Orwell took its inspiration ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Jan Thorvaldsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan Thorvaldsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am shocked that the Danish newspaper Politiken would cast a shadow on Orwellian tactics since they fully support all Orwellian tactics here in Denmark (also know as Northwest Korea).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am shocked that the Danish newspaper Politiken would cast a shadow on Orwellian tactics since they fully support all Orwellian tactics here in Denmark (also know as Northwest Korea).</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/10/30/increased-eu-behaviour-monitoring-leads-to-orwellian-fears/#comment-99321</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only a really stupid suicide bomber would attach a remotely-controlled bomb to someone else&#039;s luggage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only a really stupid suicide bomber would attach a remotely-controlled bomb to someone else&#8217;s luggage.</p>
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		<title>By: Bromley86</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/10/30/increased-eu-behaviour-monitoring-leads-to-orwellian-fears/#comment-99290</link>
		<dc:creator>Bromley86</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;If a remotely-controlled bomb is attached to someone’s unattended luggage, the luggage’s owner won’t be “nervous as hell” because he doesn’t know anything.

Yes, but that sort of threat is not what this sort of security/screening is aimed at.  If agencies adopt this sort of security it should be as part of the whole and not a replacement for other methods.

In the situation that you mention, xray/search of the baggage and explosive detectors would be the way to go, along with screening of airport staff and encouraging passengers to be responsible for their luggage (packing it, making sure that it&#039;s not interfered with before check in).  

Ultimately though, no security system can be 100% effective.  It&#039;s just about comparing the actual &quot;loss of freedoms&quot; and costs with the expected loss of life and financial losses and making the equation balance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;If a remotely-controlled bomb is attached to someone’s unattended luggage, the luggage’s owner won’t be “nervous as hell” because he doesn’t know anything.</p>
<p>Yes, but that sort of threat is not what this sort of security/screening is aimed at.  If agencies adopt this sort of security it should be as part of the whole and not a replacement for other methods.</p>
<p>In the situation that you mention, xray/search of the baggage and explosive detectors would be the way to go, along with screening of airport staff and encouraging passengers to be responsible for their luggage (packing it, making sure that it&#8217;s not interfered with before check in).  </p>
<p>Ultimately though, no security system can be 100% effective.  It&#8217;s just about comparing the actual &#8220;loss of freedoms&#8221; and costs with the expected loss of life and financial losses and making the equation balance.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 01:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If a remotely-controlled bomb is attached to someone&#039;s unattended luggage, the luggage&#039;s owner won&#039;t be &quot;nervous as hell&quot; because he doesn&#039;t know anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a remotely-controlled bomb is attached to someone&#8217;s unattended luggage, the luggage&#8217;s owner won&#8217;t be &#8220;nervous as hell&#8221; because he doesn&#8217;t know anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Aggi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aggi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Much simpler and more effective to profile by race, age and sex for enhanced searching at key check-points.&quot;

Silly suggestion!! 

Next thing you know the EU will monitor each persons move for &quot; security against terrorism&quot; look out next time you do or think anything. 

 Im sure lots of people will get randomly stop because of the heart rate, just the fact that they are monitor makes a lot of people nervous not relax.

Orwellian  wishes coming true near you  soon!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Much simpler and more effective to profile by race, age and sex for enhanced searching at key check-points.&#8221;</p>
<p>Silly suggestion!! </p>
<p>Next thing you know the EU will monitor each persons move for &#8221; security against terrorism&#8221; look out next time you do or think anything. </p>
<p> Im sure lots of people will get randomly stop because of the heart rate, just the fact that they are monitor makes a lot of people nervous not relax.</p>
<p>Orwellian  wishes coming true near you  soon!!</p>
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		<title>By: Bromley86</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bromley86</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn straight.  Without having looked into it, I suspect that if you told an EL AL security chap that he had to look at a representative sample rather than following his nose, he&#039;d laugh in your face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn straight.  Without having looked into it, I suspect that if you told an EL AL security chap that he had to look at a representative sample rather than following his nose, he&#8217;d laugh in your face.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much simpler and more effective to profile by race, age and sex for enhanced searching at key check-points. How many Nordic female 60-year-old terrorists are there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much simpler and more effective to profile by race, age and sex for enhanced searching at key check-points. How many Nordic female 60-year-old terrorists are there?</p>
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