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	<title>Comments on: Kaupthing loses claim against British government</title>
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		<title>By: Bromley86</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/10/21/kaupthing-loses-claim-against-british-government/#comment-105951</link>
		<dc:creator>Bromley86</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Found the judgement:
http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Admin/2009/2542.html

One thing I saw was that, contrary to what Fisy has said elsewhere, the term deposit amounts were not significant.  Most of it was instant access:  total retail deposits ~£2.7b, of which IA ~£2b.

Also, confirmation of the existence of a run on KSF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Found the judgement:<br />
<a href="http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Admin/2009/2542.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Admin/2009/2542.html</a></p>
<p>One thing I saw was that, contrary to what Fisy has said elsewhere, the term deposit amounts were not significant.  Most of it was instant access:  total retail deposits ~£2.7b, of which IA ~£2b.</p>
<p>Also, confirmation of the existence of a run on KSF.</p>
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		<title>By: Niels</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/10/21/kaupthing-loses-claim-against-british-government/#comment-97689</link>
		<dc:creator>Niels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 08:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Basically this confirms the opinion I already had about the icelandic banking system when I started posting on this forum: a totally corrupt system which could only sustain itself a little bit longer thru frauds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Basically this confirms the opinion I already had about the icelandic banking system when I started posting on this forum: a totally corrupt system which could only sustain itself a little bit longer thru frauds.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter - London</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/10/21/kaupthing-loses-claim-against-british-government/#comment-97619</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter - London</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where&#039;s Fisy? Gone quiet ..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where&#8217;s Fisy? Gone quiet ..</p>
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		<title>By: steveservaes</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/10/21/kaupthing-loses-claim-against-british-government/#comment-97596</link>
		<dc:creator>steveservaes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>intentions to keep the kaupthing monster alive until darling was ready for his sting - so that the UK bank collapse he feared didn&#039;t happen  before he was ready with his reactive measures.
Fair enough for those already in Kaupthing but unfair on those who put money in after kaupthing was doomed - regulators should have stopped it in spring 2008 rather than ponzi-ing in more money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>intentions to keep the kaupthing monster alive until darling was ready for his sting &#8211; so that the UK bank collapse he feared didn&#8217;t happen  before he was ready with his reactive measures.<br />
Fair enough for those already in Kaupthing but unfair on those who put money in after kaupthing was doomed &#8211; regulators should have stopped it in spring 2008 rather than ponzi-ing in more money.</p>
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		<title>By: Knowless</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/10/21/kaupthing-loses-claim-against-british-government/#comment-97525</link>
		<dc:creator>Knowless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 23:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely you cannot think that members of HM Government would act in a way to  ensure that money from the IOM bank, be transferred over to the UK banks with anything other than honest intentions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely you cannot think that members of HM Government would act in a way to  ensure that money from the IOM bank, be transferred over to the UK banks with anything other than honest intentions.</p>
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		<title>By: steveservaes</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/10/21/kaupthing-loses-claim-against-british-government/#comment-97497</link>
		<dc:creator>steveservaes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>interesting stuff bromley

I think it is impossible to say at this stage whether KSFIOM would have been better off in hf than UK.
This needs a transparent inquiry in relation to KSFIOM and KSFUK.
The UK government will not do it  - and the IOM non-public enquiry has whitewash/ cover-up written all over it.
The IOM depositors have been treated disgracefully falling between various goverments with different agendas - all of which have an interest in sweeping ksfiom under the carpet.
I personally suspect some political pressure was applied in putting the ksfiom monies in ksfuk -  it doesn&#039;t make sense otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesting stuff bromley</p>
<p>I think it is impossible to say at this stage whether KSFIOM would have been better off in hf than UK.<br />
This needs a transparent inquiry in relation to KSFIOM and KSFUK.<br />
The UK government will not do it  &#8211; and the IOM non-public enquiry has whitewash/ cover-up written all over it.<br />
The IOM depositors have been treated disgracefully falling between various goverments with different agendas &#8211; all of which have an interest in sweeping ksfiom under the carpet.<br />
I personally suspect some political pressure was applied in putting the ksfiom monies in ksfuk &#8211;  it doesn&#8217;t make sense otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Bromley86</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/10/21/kaupthing-loses-claim-against-british-government/#comment-97463</link>
		<dc:creator>Bromley86</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 08:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;draining out much of the cash reserves of the Iceland state

Hopefully the Icelandic government secured that loan on something that held value (not that I know whether it would have been legally possible to do so).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;draining out much of the cash reserves of the Iceland state</p>
<p>Hopefully the Icelandic government secured that loan on something that held value (not that I know whether it would have been legally possible to do so).</p>
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		<title>By: Bromley86</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/10/21/kaupthing-loses-claim-against-british-government/#comment-97435</link>
		<dc:creator>Bromley86</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 23:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;we care claus – the ksfiom savers in the isle of man whose money was placed by ksfiom in ksfuk – with no compo from uk govt and token from isle of man govt

Hi Steve.  I understand that the preferred solution would have been to keep the money in the IoM or to diversify the deposits outside the group.

But, forgetting that for the moment, has anyone worked out whether KSFIOM would have been better off with the money in K.hf or KSFUK?

The other thing that occurred to me is that maybe K.hf wasn&#039;t prepared to allow the funds to sit in the IoM?  From this judicial review, it seems that when they transferred money from K.hf to KSFUK, they then transferred most of it back out again to try to plug gaps in other countries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;we care claus – the ksfiom savers in the isle of man whose money was placed by ksfiom in ksfuk – with no compo from uk govt and token from isle of man govt</p>
<p>Hi Steve.  I understand that the preferred solution would have been to keep the money in the IoM or to diversify the deposits outside the group.</p>
<p>But, forgetting that for the moment, has anyone worked out whether KSFIOM would have been better off with the money in K.hf or KSFUK?</p>
<p>The other thing that occurred to me is that maybe K.hf wasn&#8217;t prepared to allow the funds to sit in the IoM?  From this judicial review, it seems that when they transferred money from K.hf to KSFUK, they then transferred most of it back out again to try to plug gaps in other countries.</p>
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		<title>By: Knowless</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/10/21/kaupthing-loses-claim-against-british-government/#comment-97434</link>
		<dc:creator>Knowless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 23:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Visir.is reports that the entire loan (EUR 500m) was paid out; but that Kaupthing used the money to shore up its operations elsewhere in Europe. Among others, a portion of the funds went to Sweden and another chunk was used to save Kaupthing Edge in Germany&quot;
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So Kaupthing sank, along with this last gasp EUR 500m loan, draining out much of the cash reserves of the Iceland state. They lied and cheated anybody who had the misfortune to do business with them. They acted like charlatans of the highest order and had the outrageous cheek to take a baseless court case against the Brit Gov.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Visir.is reports that the entire loan (EUR 500m) was paid out; but that Kaupthing used the money to shore up its operations elsewhere in Europe. Among others, a portion of the funds went to Sweden and another chunk was used to save Kaupthing Edge in Germany&#8221;<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
So Kaupthing sank, along with this last gasp EUR 500m loan, draining out much of the cash reserves of the Iceland state. They lied and cheated anybody who had the misfortune to do business with them. They acted like charlatans of the highest order and had the outrageous cheek to take a baseless court case against the Brit Gov.</p>
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		<title>By: steveservaes</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/10/21/kaupthing-loses-claim-against-british-government/#comment-97431</link>
		<dc:creator>steveservaes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 23:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we care claus - the ksfiom savers in the isle of man whose money was placed by ksfiom in ksfuk - with no compo from uk govt and token from isle of man govt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we care claus &#8211; the ksfiom savers in the isle of man whose money was placed by ksfiom in ksfuk &#8211; with no compo from uk govt and token from isle of man govt</p>
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