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		<title>By: Bromley86</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/08/04/eva-joly-criticises-europe-over-iceland-debt/#comment-99887</link>
		<dc:creator>Bromley86</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If you wonder why U.K. is using using anti-terrorism legislation to humble Iceland the answer is quite simple:

The U.K. (and NATO) are engaged into a war to take over Artic (where Iceland has a legitimate share)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Of course, that theory is shot down by (a) reality and (b) Iceland&#039;s lack of a claim to the Arctic.  Don&#039;t believe everything you think of when reading the Economist or not wearing your tin-foil hat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If you wonder why U.K. is using using anti-terrorism legislation to humble Iceland the answer is quite simple:</p>
<p>The U.K. (and NATO) are engaged into a war to take over Artic (where Iceland has a legitimate share)</p></blockquote>
<p>Of course, that theory is shot down by (a) reality and (b) Iceland&#8217;s lack of a claim to the Arctic.  Don&#8217;t believe everything you think of when reading the Economist or not wearing your tin-foil hat.</p>
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		<title>By: Craguss</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/08/04/eva-joly-criticises-europe-over-iceland-debt/#comment-99863</link>
		<dc:creator>Craguss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Getting into Debt is just not worth the risk! If you earn the money to buy what you need, there is no reason to get into debt for anything! Why Countries should get into debt is ludacrous! You reap what you sow!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting into Debt is just not worth the risk! If you earn the money to buy what you need, there is no reason to get into debt for anything! Why Countries should get into debt is ludacrous! You reap what you sow!</p>
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		<title>By: Pierre</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/08/04/eva-joly-criticises-europe-over-iceland-debt/#comment-95750</link>
		<dc:creator>Pierre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 08:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you wonder why U.K. is using using anti-terrorism legislation to humble Iceland the answer is quite simple:

The U.K. (and NATO) are engaged into a war to take over Artic (where Iceland has a legitimate share):

http://www.economist.com/world/international/displaystory.cfm?story_id=14587820</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you wonder why U.K. is using using anti-terrorism legislation to humble Iceland the answer is quite simple:</p>
<p>The U.K. (and NATO) are engaged into a war to take over Artic (where Iceland has a legitimate share):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.economist.com/world/international/displaystory.cfm?story_id=14587820" rel="nofollow">http://www.economist.com/world/international/displaystory.cfm?story_id=14587820</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/08/04/eva-joly-criticises-europe-over-iceland-debt/#comment-88539</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If traders had just watch what was happening using something like this http://thetradesurfer.com/blog/simple-moving-average maybe losses could have been avoided?? Thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If traders had just watch what was happening using something like this <a href="http://thetradesurfer.com/blog/simple-moving-average" rel="nofollow">http://thetradesurfer.com/blog/simple-moving-average</a> maybe losses could have been avoided?? Thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: amsatpro</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/08/04/eva-joly-criticises-europe-over-iceland-debt/#comment-87698</link>
		<dc:creator>amsatpro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you Aggi..
Todd DiRoberto
http://www.campaignmoney.com/political/contributions/todd-diroberto.asp?cycle=08</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you Aggi..<br />
Todd DiRoberto<br />
<a href="http://www.campaignmoney.com/political/contributions/todd-diroberto.asp?cycle=08" rel="nofollow">http://www.campaignmoney.com/political/contributions/todd-diroberto.asp?cycle=08</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bromley86</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/08/04/eva-joly-criticises-europe-over-iceland-debt/#comment-87674</link>
		<dc:creator>Bromley86</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 13:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Oystein.

Although I couldn&#039;t follow what was said or exactly what his position is (regulatory/police?), Helgi Magnus Gunnarsson looked totally demoralised.

Also spotted Bjarni from Iceland Review :) .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Oystein.</p>
<p>Although I couldn&#8217;t follow what was said or exactly what his position is (regulatory/police?), Helgi Magnus Gunnarsson looked totally demoralised.</p>
<p>Also spotted Bjarni from Iceland Review :) .</p>
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		<title>By: Knowless</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/08/04/eva-joly-criticises-europe-over-iceland-debt/#comment-87670</link>
		<dc:creator>Knowless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bromley86 said:
One thing that interested me was Eva saying in the non-English versions:
&quot;Thus already in October 2008 the British government employed extremely drastic measures by freezing deposits, using anti-terrorism legislation (The Anti-Terrorism, Crime and Security Act 2001), not only against Landsbanki but also against Kaupthing.&quot;
Ignoring that she’s appearing pretty partisan with regards to the terrorist label, she’s repeating the old story that the ATCSA was applied to not just Landsbanki but also Kaupthing.

Is this a bad case of should have checked her facts first, or does she know something that hasn’t hit the press? Bearing in mind that I find it highly unlikely that something hasn’t been reported.
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This is a direct translation of what she spoke  which is different to the interpretation of what she said  as reflected in what you quoted in your post above
Eva Joly
 &quot;Indeed, at the very start of October, the UK began with a measure of extreme retaliation: freezing of the assets of not only Landsbanki but also Kaupthing Bank, which was totally unconnected to Icesave, using its anti-terrorism legislation&quot;

Assets were frozen in both banks, the Anti terrorism legislation was used.
You could make a case that she implied  the ATA was used against Kaupthing.
But It is a moot point whether assets were frozen in Kaupthing with using the ATA or a Banking Law. It is taking pedantry way too serious in the context of the substance of her article. It is the substance of the deal which seriously interests most people in Iceland, not whether Eva crossed her T&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bromley86 said:<br />
One thing that interested me was Eva saying in the non-English versions:<br />
&#8220;Thus already in October 2008 the British government employed extremely drastic measures by freezing deposits, using anti-terrorism legislation (The Anti-Terrorism, Crime and Security Act 2001), not only against Landsbanki but also against Kaupthing.&#8221;<br />
Ignoring that she’s appearing pretty partisan with regards to the terrorist label, she’s repeating the old story that the ATCSA was applied to not just Landsbanki but also Kaupthing.</p>
<p>Is this a bad case of should have checked her facts first, or does she know something that hasn’t hit the press? Bearing in mind that I find it highly unlikely that something hasn’t been reported.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>This is a direct translation of what she spoke  which is different to the interpretation of what she said  as reflected in what you quoted in your post above<br />
Eva Joly<br />
 &#8220;Indeed, at the very start of October, the UK began with a measure of extreme retaliation: freezing of the assets of not only Landsbanki but also Kaupthing Bank, which was totally unconnected to Icesave, using its anti-terrorism legislation&#8221;</p>
<p>Assets were frozen in both banks, the Anti terrorism legislation was used.<br />
You could make a case that she implied  the ATA was used against Kaupthing.<br />
But It is a moot point whether assets were frozen in Kaupthing with using the ATA or a Banking Law. It is taking pedantry way too serious in the context of the substance of her article. It is the substance of the deal which seriously interests most people in Iceland, not whether Eva crossed her T&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Øystein; Norway</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/08/04/eva-joly-criticises-europe-over-iceland-debt/#comment-87668</link>
		<dc:creator>Øystein; Norway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bromley86. Yes, but authorities followed the banks closeley, and I think they were quite aware of what system it was build on...

NRK - Norwegian public state television - had a story on Iceland banks in November 2008.

It is Jon Gerald Sullenberger that is guide in the beginning... (We know he is not the best friend of Jon Asgeir Johannesson). 

Some part of the program is in English - some is in Norwegian. 

http://www1.nrk.no/nett-tv/indeks/151914

You can try and see if you get something out of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bromley86. Yes, but authorities followed the banks closeley, and I think they were quite aware of what system it was build on&#8230;</p>
<p>NRK &#8211; Norwegian public state television &#8211; had a story on Iceland banks in November 2008.</p>
<p>It is Jon Gerald Sullenberger that is guide in the beginning&#8230; (We know he is not the best friend of Jon Asgeir Johannesson). </p>
<p>Some part of the program is in English &#8211; some is in Norwegian. </p>
<p><a href="http://www1.nrk.no/nett-tv/indeks/151914" rel="nofollow">http://www1.nrk.no/nett-tv/indeks/151914</a></p>
<p>You can try and see if you get something out of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/08/04/eva-joly-criticises-europe-over-iceland-debt/#comment-87661</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 10:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;bring back Maggie&quot;

LOL. I haven&#039;t heard that in a few years... It must be desperate times here in UK if we&#039;re reminiscing about a woman who introduced the poll tax and caused riots!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;bring back Maggie&#8221;</p>
<p>LOL. I haven&#8217;t heard that in a few years&#8230; It must be desperate times here in UK if we&#8217;re reminiscing about a woman who introduced the poll tax and caused riots!</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/08/04/eva-joly-criticises-europe-over-iceland-debt/#comment-87647</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 08:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this is how the E.U. opens its doors to a possible new member, so far I don&#039;t consider this a warm welcome.  Personally (!), I&#039;ve always been rather optimistic about Iceland joining the &quot;european club&quot;, but there are too many unexpected reactions coming from the EU, changing the way I feel about it. Iceland will think twice when deciding about cohesion...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this is how the E.U. opens its doors to a possible new member, so far I don&#8217;t consider this a warm welcome.  Personally (!), I&#8217;ve always been rather optimistic about Iceland joining the &#8220;european club&#8221;, but there are too many unexpected reactions coming from the EU, changing the way I feel about it. Iceland will think twice when deciding about cohesion&#8230;</p>
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