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	<title>Comments on: EU vote could distract from Danish royal referendum</title>
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		<title>By: Alexander E.</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/06/05/eu-vote-could-distract-from-danish-royal-referendum/#comment-80196</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexander E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 21:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Terry said:

&gt;Seriously, I have full control over my wife’s bank internet access.

Oooh… that sounds a little Neanderthal Alexander! &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Terry. She has full control over cash. I just keep an eye on account and add extra cash when it dries out as she keeps he magic piece of plastic not me. We just share the duties - I take care of bills, she takes care of laundry. But as to voting (or any other opinion) - there is no control :-(

&lt;blockquote&gt; Øystein  said:
AE - we have been working on electronic voting here for years. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
Good luck. But I&#039;m not talking about voting itself.

&lt;blockquote&gt;but if it is OK that - say your wife call you an ask you to vote for her, because she for a reason can´t do it - is it then OK that you do it for her. She gives you what you need for voting. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes it is OK with me. Well I see no reason why she can&#039;t do it. Because if she can&#039;t do it remotely - there are less chance she can do it in person. So either her &quot;voice&quot; is lost or she does it in advance.

Looks like you are more concerned about potential fraud than about real matter, Øystein :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Terry said:</p>
<p>&gt;Seriously, I have full control over my wife’s bank internet access.</p>
<p>Oooh… that sounds a little Neanderthal Alexander! </p></blockquote>
<p>Terry. She has full control over cash. I just keep an eye on account and add extra cash when it dries out as she keeps he magic piece of plastic not me. We just share the duties &#8211; I take care of bills, she takes care of laundry. But as to voting (or any other opinion) &#8211; there is no control :-(</p>
<blockquote><p> Øystein  said:<br />
AE &#8211; we have been working on electronic voting here for years. </p></blockquote>
<p>Good luck. But I&#8217;m not talking about voting itself.</p>
<blockquote><p>but if it is OK that &#8211; say your wife call you an ask you to vote for her, because she for a reason can´t do it &#8211; is it then OK that you do it for her. She gives you what you need for voting. </p></blockquote>
<p>Yes it is OK with me. Well I see no reason why she can&#8217;t do it. Because if she can&#8217;t do it remotely &#8211; there are less chance she can do it in person. So either her &#8220;voice&#8221; is lost or she does it in advance.</p>
<p>Looks like you are more concerned about potential fraud than about real matter, Øystein :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Øystein;Norway</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/06/05/eu-vote-could-distract-from-danish-royal-referendum/#comment-80177</link>
		<dc:creator>Øystein;Norway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 17:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AE - we have been working on electronic voting here for years. My question is not about IP or sequrity, but if it is OK that - say your wife call you an ask you to vote for her, because she for a reason can´t do it - is it then OK that you do it for her. She gives you what you need for voting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AE &#8211; we have been working on electronic voting here for years. My question is not about IP or sequrity, but if it is OK that &#8211; say your wife call you an ask you to vote for her, because she for a reason can´t do it &#8211; is it then OK that you do it for her. She gives you what you need for voting.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/06/05/eu-vote-could-distract-from-danish-royal-referendum/#comment-80173</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 17:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Seriously, I have full control over my wife’s bank internet access.

Oooh... that sounds a little Neanderthal Alexander!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Seriously, I have full control over my wife’s bank internet access.</p>
<p>Oooh&#8230; that sounds a little Neanderthal Alexander!</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander E.</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/06/05/eu-vote-could-distract-from-danish-royal-referendum/#comment-80168</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexander E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 17:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;And if a person vote for another person - perhaps several - is that OK in your system? &lt;/blockquote&gt;

To the preson who pretends he/she is Øystein from Norway! I ignore you silly remark! :-)
I know that you sent this silly and negative (towards people in general) message when real Øystein was distracted by you!

Seriously, I have full control over my wife&#039;s bank internet access. But for sure in case of vote she would not let me have access to her vote account. And to get to internet bank first I have to enter user name/password then enter randomly generated code (done by personal electronic key) and even after that I have to confirm my actions by another pin code. Plus my IP is recorded. So chances that someone get to my account without my personal and explicit permission is next to zero.

But let&#039;s say there are some fraud - 1-2% of all votes.
Now look - we have 80-90% turnover with 1-2% fraud. Or we have around 40% turnover with 0% fraud.
What result is more accurate in terms of public opinion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And if a person vote for another person &#8211; perhaps several &#8211; is that OK in your system? </p></blockquote>
<p>To the preson who pretends he/she is Øystein from Norway! I ignore you silly remark! :-)<br />
I know that you sent this silly and negative (towards people in general) message when real Øystein was distracted by you!</p>
<p>Seriously, I have full control over my wife&#8217;s bank internet access. But for sure in case of vote she would not let me have access to her vote account. And to get to internet bank first I have to enter user name/password then enter randomly generated code (done by personal electronic key) and even after that I have to confirm my actions by another pin code. Plus my IP is recorded. So chances that someone get to my account without my personal and explicit permission is next to zero.</p>
<p>But let&#8217;s say there are some fraud &#8211; 1-2% of all votes.<br />
Now look &#8211; we have 80-90% turnover with 1-2% fraud. Or we have around 40% turnover with 0% fraud.<br />
What result is more accurate in terms of public opinion?</p>
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		<title>By: Øystein;Norway</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/06/05/eu-vote-could-distract-from-danish-royal-referendum/#comment-80167</link>
		<dc:creator>Øystein;Norway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 16:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AE &gt; &quot;I understand that for an average family of four - with two small kids - a trip to voting station in weekend might take an average one hour!&quot;

And if a person vote for another person - perhaps several - is that OK in your system?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AE &gt; &#8220;I understand that for an average family of four &#8211; with two small kids &#8211; a trip to voting station in weekend might take an average one hour!&#8221;</p>
<p>And if a person vote for another person &#8211; perhaps several &#8211; is that OK in your system?</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander E.</title>
		<link>http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2009/06/05/eu-vote-could-distract-from-danish-royal-referendum/#comment-80162</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexander E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 15:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So they have a problem with turnover of voters? And same time an estimated 84 percent of Danes support referendum? And same time to help encourage Danes &lt;strong&gt;to get out&lt;/strong&gt; and vote on the referendum the office of the Prime Minister has launched a campaign on the Internet?

Looks for me that the problem is TO GET OUT people. A good example of why &quot;direct democracy&quot; is knocking in our doors!
I understand that for an average family of four - with two small kids - a trip to voting station in weekend might take an average one hour! So they have an option to stay at home with kids or do a lot of home work. But I&#039;m sure if they could vote by typing password and then click Yes then click Yes again after &quot;Are you sure?&quot; popup window then click again Yes after another &quot;Are you sure you are sure?&quot; - so total 1 minute - turnover might be 90-95%. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So they have a problem with turnover of voters? And same time an estimated 84 percent of Danes support referendum? And same time to help encourage Danes <strong>to get out</strong> and vote on the referendum the office of the Prime Minister has launched a campaign on the Internet?</p>
<p>Looks for me that the problem is TO GET OUT people. A good example of why &#8220;direct democracy&#8221; is knocking in our doors!<br />
I understand that for an average family of four &#8211; with two small kids &#8211; a trip to voting station in weekend might take an average one hour! So they have an option to stay at home with kids or do a lot of home work. But I&#8217;m sure if they could vote by typing password and then click Yes then click Yes again after &#8220;Are you sure?&#8221; popup window then click again Yes after another &#8220;Are you sure you are sure?&#8221; &#8211; so total 1 minute &#8211; turnover might be 90-95%. ;-)</p>
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