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		<title>By: Economic Disaster Area &#187; SPRON customers safe as bank buckles under Baugur &#38; CB press release</title>
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		<dc:creator>Economic Disaster Area &#187; SPRON customers safe as bank buckles under Baugur &#38; CB press release</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 23:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: SPRON customers safe as bank buckles under Baugur &#38; CB press release &#124; financeaiddirect.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>SPRON customers safe as bank buckles under Baugur &#38; CB press release &#124; financeaiddirect.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Niels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fisy
I do enjoy your postings too. You have been able to put new things on the table in several discusions and the tenacity with which you defend your opinions is admirable.
Yet I do think these qualities deserve better causes than defending Oddson and the Independence Party but OK, that is your opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fisy<br />
I do enjoy your postings too. You have been able to put new things on the table in several discusions and the tenacity with which you defend your opinions is admirable.<br />
Yet I do think these qualities deserve better causes than defending Oddson and the Independence Party but OK, that is your opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Fisy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fisy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Niels of Netherlands at least you take time to actually post something on topic each time. I do actually enjoy to see you posts.

&gt;As for your opinion about Valur’s article in the R. Grapevine being subjective (off course it is) , do you think you are completely objective yourself in your postings on this forum ?

It pretty obvious what my ideas are because it drip from each of my post.

&gt;I find it a bit curious that you always call opinions that contradict yours ‘biased’.

Dont mind you post opinion different from mine provided you make some backup of your reasons and facts -- but dont misquote me.

Where do I &quot;always&quot; say that?

I am annoyed in the case of Íris and Valur article because they distort facts so much in way as I explain.

What I dislike here at icenews is growing lack of actually posting ontopic by many poster here. They drift off to ad hominem attacking and plain off topicness recently. Its very boring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Niels of Netherlands at least you take time to actually post something on topic each time. I do actually enjoy to see you posts.</p>
<p>&gt;As for your opinion about Valur’s article in the R. Grapevine being subjective (off course it is) , do you think you are completely objective yourself in your postings on this forum ?</p>
<p>It pretty obvious what my ideas are because it drip from each of my post.</p>
<p>&gt;I find it a bit curious that you always call opinions that contradict yours ‘biased’.</p>
<p>Dont mind you post opinion different from mine provided you make some backup of your reasons and facts &#8212; but dont misquote me.</p>
<p>Where do I &#8220;always&#8221; say that?</p>
<p>I am annoyed in the case of Íris and Valur article because they distort facts so much in way as I explain.</p>
<p>What I dislike here at icenews is growing lack of actually posting ontopic by many poster here. They drift off to ad hominem attacking and plain off topicness recently. Its very boring.</p>
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		<title>By: C.A.K</title>
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		<dc:creator>C.A.K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good job, making this. See http://www.huffingtonpost.com/iris-lee/icelands-irreplaceable-ge_b_177663.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good job, making this. See <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/iris-lee/icelands-irreplaceable-ge_b_177663.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/iris-lee/icelands-irreplaceable-ge_b_177663.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Easy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Easy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really?</p>
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		<title>By: Easy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Easy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fisy how ignorant and blind can somebody be? rally!!!</description>
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		<title>By: Niels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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&gt;Thx for posting this article. I find it really incredible that the ’sheriff from &gt;Akranes’ only interviewed ‘at most 10 people’ and ‘did not see any reason for &gt;further investigation’ . How is this possible ??

Because no one been pushing hard for this — particualrly not Jóhanna, and Steingrímur who after fire rhetoric gone silent now sitting in government.
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I am sorry Fisy but this does not seem a convincing reply to me. After all,the sheriff is supposed to be an independent and impartial investigator who should do his (important) work, regardless of the behaviour of the present or previous gov.


As for your opinion about Valur&#039;s article in the R. Grapevine being subjective (off course it is) , do you think you are completely objective yourself in your postings on this forum ?

I find it a bit curious that you always call opinions that contradict yours &#039;biased&#039;. 

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Reason for Icelander to go to Iceland was to escape kings (taxes) and criminal. Decentralized power was the way here and there no executive branch government at all witch was completely unknown of in Europe at time — and it became badafter with voilence only after Christianty taken because of centralization of power that Christianty gave.
+++++++++++++++++

In my opinion Valur used the same argument in the article.

I do admit that I am not an expert in the history of icelandic privatizations but there are certain facts that make Valur&#039;s arguments plausible to me:

-an unplanned side effect of the privatizationwas the arrival of a new class of &#039;sharks&#039; , grabbing large parts of the newly privatized companies and founding new ones
-with some of them (especially Asgeir/Baugur) Oddson had a very bad relation
-there was a lack of competition on the local icelandic market
-prices were kept high artificially; do you think it is normal that icelanders had to pay 2 to 3 times more for daily groceries than us &#039;poor&#039; EU citizens (in fact most prices are stil higher than overhere)?</description>
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&gt;Thx for posting this article. I find it really incredible that the ’sheriff from &gt;Akranes’ only interviewed ‘at most 10 people’ and ‘did not see any reason for &gt;further investigation’ . How is this possible ??</p>
<p>Because no one been pushing hard for this — particualrly not Jóhanna, and Steingrímur who after fire rhetoric gone silent now sitting in government.<br />
+++++++++++++++</p>
<p>I am sorry Fisy but this does not seem a convincing reply to me. After all,the sheriff is supposed to be an independent and impartial investigator who should do his (important) work, regardless of the behaviour of the present or previous gov.</p>
<p>As for your opinion about Valur&#8217;s article in the R. Grapevine being subjective (off course it is) , do you think you are completely objective yourself in your postings on this forum ?</p>
<p>I find it a bit curious that you always call opinions that contradict yours &#8216;biased&#8217;. </p>
<p>+++++++++++++++++<br />
Reason for Icelander to go to Iceland was to escape kings (taxes) and criminal. Decentralized power was the way here and there no executive branch government at all witch was completely unknown of in Europe at time — and it became badafter with voilence only after Christianty taken because of centralization of power that Christianty gave.<br />
+++++++++++++++++</p>
<p>In my opinion Valur used the same argument in the article.</p>
<p>I do admit that I am not an expert in the history of icelandic privatizations but there are certain facts that make Valur&#8217;s arguments plausible to me:</p>
<p>-an unplanned side effect of the privatizationwas the arrival of a new class of &#8216;sharks&#8217; , grabbing large parts of the newly privatized companies and founding new ones<br />
-with some of them (especially Asgeir/Baugur) Oddson had a very bad relation<br />
-there was a lack of competition on the local icelandic market<br />
-prices were kept high artificially; do you think it is normal that icelanders had to pay 2 to 3 times more for daily groceries than us &#8216;poor&#8217; EU citizens (in fact most prices are stil higher than overhere)?</p>
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		<title>By: Fisy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fisy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Thx for posting this article. I find it really incredible that the ’sheriff from &gt;Akranes’ only interviewed ‘at most 10 people’ and ‘did not see any reason for &gt;further investigation’ . How is this possible ??

Because no one been pushing hard for this -- particualrly not Jóhanna, and Steingrímur who after fire rhetoric gone silent now sitting in government.

Witch is surprising.

Why is only one pushing hard for this independence investigations is Davið Oddsson?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Thx for posting this article. I find it really incredible that the ’sheriff from &gt;Akranes’ only interviewed ‘at most 10 people’ and ‘did not see any reason for &gt;further investigation’ . How is this possible ??</p>
<p>Because no one been pushing hard for this &#8212; particualrly not Jóhanna, and Steingrímur who after fire rhetoric gone silent now sitting in government.</p>
<p>Witch is surprising.</p>
<p>Why is only one pushing hard for this independence investigations is Davið Oddsson?</p>
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		<title>By: Fisy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fisy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Íris article is a good example of poor article writing where bias is so strong it discconnect reader from reaility of subject matter for time reading.

Valur also so blinded by his idioligy he skim over things he talk about. If case is so strong no need to misrepresent -- unless of course write actually pig ignorant of subject and not interest to learn or  he know history as he wants to write is not actual history as historians tell us about it.

Reason for Icelander to go to Iceland was to escape kings (taxes) and criminal. Decentralized power was the way here and there no executive branch government at all witch was completely unknown of in Europe at time -- and it became badafter with voilence only after Christianty taken because of centralization of power that Christianty gave.

Valur history of privatlization idea of Davið also sound strange. Not sure he actually understand what Davið and other pushing for. Davið and others take over Independence party and make it electible after failures of centralize power monopoly etc. for most modern history Iceland.

If going to rip into people and ideas must get those ideas right -- cannot attack if  not to able to represent ideas correctly. Then cannot match ideas and words to actions to show why bad wrong hypocrit etc, and that is why articles like those ones just cannot be taken too serious.

(On same lines in other article by Íris it seem she does not even understand  when quoting Milton Friedman he were talking about history of Iceland in free common wealth period 930-1262 not 1990s. With ignorance like this hard to take anything Íris write serious.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Íris article is a good example of poor article writing where bias is so strong it discconnect reader from reaility of subject matter for time reading.</p>
<p>Valur also so blinded by his idioligy he skim over things he talk about. If case is so strong no need to misrepresent &#8212; unless of course write actually pig ignorant of subject and not interest to learn or  he know history as he wants to write is not actual history as historians tell us about it.</p>
<p>Reason for Icelander to go to Iceland was to escape kings (taxes) and criminal. Decentralized power was the way here and there no executive branch government at all witch was completely unknown of in Europe at time &#8212; and it became badafter with voilence only after Christianty taken because of centralization of power that Christianty gave.</p>
<p>Valur history of privatlization idea of Davið also sound strange. Not sure he actually understand what Davið and other pushing for. Davið and others take over Independence party and make it electible after failures of centralize power monopoly etc. for most modern history Iceland.</p>
<p>If going to rip into people and ideas must get those ideas right &#8212; cannot attack if  not to able to represent ideas correctly. Then cannot match ideas and words to actions to show why bad wrong hypocrit etc, and that is why articles like those ones just cannot be taken too serious.</p>
<p>(On same lines in other article by Íris it seem she does not even understand  when quoting Milton Friedman he were talking about history of Iceland in free common wealth period 930-1262 not 1990s. With ignorance like this hard to take anything Íris write serious.)</p>
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