The Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs this week criticised Swedish democracy and freedom of speech, following an article in Aftonbladet in which the author accuses the Israeli army of murdering young Palestinians to steal and trade their organs.
A spokesperson from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs is quoted as saying that no democratic country should allow a discussion that inevitably encourages hate crimes upon Jews. The spokesperson calls the article a disgrace on freedom of speech that spreads disgrace upon Swedish democracy and the entire Swedish press. The statement has been quoted in virtually every Israeli media.
According to an article today in Dagens Media, an Israeli government official calls the article “hate porn” and the Israeli ambassador in Stockholm has demanded that the Swedish government take a stand for or against the publication. Aftonbladet’s editor in chief, Jan Helin who during the last couple of days has been defending the article in his blog and in foreign press is today also demanding in an open letter to foreign minister Carl Bildt that the government takes a stand on the issue.
The Swedish Minister for Foreign Affairs Carl Bildt has so far declined to comment on the matter. Somewhat surprisingly though, the Swedish ambassador in Jerusalem earlier joined the criticism and rejected the article on behalf of the Swedish embassy in Israel. But that condemnation has now been withdrawn and the Press Officer of the Swedish Ministry of Foreign Affairs said in a statement that the ministry does not support the criticism; adding that the Ministry of Foreign Affairs respects Swedish freedom of speech and does not review articles in Swedish media concerning foreign situations.
The article in Aftonbladet is written by the author and photographer Donald Bostrom who in previous articles and books has directed similar criticism to the Israeli army. He has however not been able to present evidence except his own experience to support the claims. Bostrom has received several death treats since the article was publicised.
The criticism from Israel seems, however, not to have been directed at the article as such; but rather at the Swedish state for allowing such articles to be published.
>but many of u people is not even “real” jews. ur converts
Cite?
You’ll also note that Israel has evacuated all settlements in Gaza, so they’re not really after a piece of it. In fact, I’d wager that they wish they’d left it in Egyptian hands back in ’67 :) .
OK so whats your point?
Germany where mean to u while europe passively/ actively helped and now are you guys punnishing the palestinians?? U should get one piece of germany not gaza witch is already populated by the palestinians. And I already now what ur argument is to that one. I know Jews/Isralites have a historical connection to this area but many of u people is not even “real” jews. ur converts.
Niels
I agree with you completely. I live in Israel now-have also a dutch passport.
I consider myself liberal left in Israel, want peace no war, no land grab, and hope that palestinians will choose pragmatically for peace but I have no problems with war when needed.
But in Europe-Holland I vote now right, very right-because of these baseless evil accusations like the swedish newspaper.
Moslems determine nowadays the tone of information
in the media, including virulent lies.
There is no way to defend oneself from this irrational hatred.
A spanish newspaper wrote last october, around the jewish new year, that Europe passively or actively helped to exterminate 6 million jews, have guilt feelings and is therefore nice now towards 20 million moslems as a displacement.
But what an irony, what a loss to Europe economically and culturally
not to have their productive and developed jewish population any more and get this difficult
population of moslems instead, which costs so much and do not contribute to growth.
This is the real punishment for war crimes and antisemitism in the past.
Let the swedish publish more of this nonsense and be happy with their positively contributing moslem group…
Aggi,
You just demonstrate that you do not know anything about the middle east.
There is an icelandic people living in Iceland, just like there is a danish people living in Denmark and a dutch people living in NL.
But there is NO lebanese people, NO syrian people, NO Iraqi people, not even a saudi people.
There is just one people in all these countries: the arab people. Palestinians are arabs too.
All these countries are artificial creations of western imperialism (any arab will tell you).
While there are dozens of arab states, there is just ONE jewish state and jews have lived there since pre historic times. Jews have been forced to live all over the world since roman times and they have always been the victims of persecution and attempts of extermination.
After the second WW the UN decided that jews had the right to live in their original country. A plan was made to divide Palestine between jews and arabs. The UN approved this plan but the arabs rejected it and attacked Israel,. They lost this war (and the following ones). This created the palestinian diaspora. Palestinians are living in almost every arab country and you know what Aggi? While we in the western world are used to try and accomodate refugees as good as possible, showing respect for their background and traditions, even if they are totally different from ours, these arab states (with the exception of Jordania) treat them like sh*t.
Palestinians do NOT get passports, even if their families have been living in these countries since 1948. They have even less rights than the ‘native’ people of these countries (who are already living under dictatorships).
This is ALSO the case in Saudi Arabia so it IS relevant that I mention this country too.
And palestinians speak the same language and have the same religion!
I am not even going so far that Israel is ONLY for jews because of the bible: I think that palestinians who were really driven from their land should get some compensation but the right for jews to live safely in the only jewish state which exists is undeniable.
BTW like I mentioned in another comment, millions of germans were driven from their land by the governments of Poland and Czechoslovakia, after a lost war and you know what, untill today they did not get any compensation.
So just blaming Israel is just not fair.
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the Dutch did land grab
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The dutch have been a colonial country (dutch is spoken even in South Africa) and most developed western countries have been that, even Sweden and Denmark. Does this have any relevance for the current people living in these countries?
That is history, what is wrong with that? Should icelanders be made responsible for all the things the vikings did?
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LOL, ok Israel is a welcoming country to any Arab, for sure
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No LOL at all, in Israel the get a PASSPORT and they can vote in democratic elections, just mention ONE SINGLE arab country which has the same thing.
Øystein,
You write:
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A story like this should normally be easy to investigate. It is often more difficult to tell than hide the truth.
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This is not true. Let us suppose that Israel should investigate this case. How should this be done? Should independent observers be shown the result of EVERY single autopsy in the country to check if all the organs are still there?
Even if something like this should be done anti semmites will STILL argue that there are STILL cases of trade in organs.
Since no sources are given and only vague allegations are given NO investigation is possible.
If there really would be such a trade this “journalist” should mention RECENT cases and mention NAMES. If he does not do this NO investigation is possible!
It is not possible to defend yourself against vague allegations and accusations.
“Sure and any arab country is VERY welcoming towards jews….wake up.
Arabs in Israel have more rights than palestinians in Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Saudi Arabia….etcetera etcetera.”
The countries mentioned did not land grab Palestinian territories, that is the relevance to my comparison, the Dutch did land grab, the Zionist are doing land grab.
Palestinians may not have rights in the countries that you mention but
” Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Saudi Arabia” , are not their own country.
By the way, you mention Saudi Arabia , I think mentioning a country with a GIGANTIC class system is irrelevant.
“Sure and any arab country is VERY welcoming towards jews….wake up.”
Can you explain why should they be, please?
Good one IceNews :) . One of those will make it though any *machine* filter.
>Niels
I am not sure if I agree with you in this. Take the actual case. If the population was not convinced on what is true, then the authorities should not try react in a way the population do not belive in. A story like this should normally be easy to investigate. It is often more difficult to tell than hide the truth. As this was an “old” story (2003), I think it would serve Israel better if it was ignored. By reacting the story was published to the whole world.
Bromley – I use **** wnen I log into my bankaccount – so I think he ment something positive ;-)
Oystein. A***/a**/b**** (one of those will make it through any filter :) ).
Aggi,
Sure and any arab country is VERY welcoming towards jews….wake up.
Arabs in Israel have more rights than palestinians in Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Saudi Arabia….etcetera etcetera.
Sammy – What does **** mean?
Øystein, you’ve had “jews close to your family” and “some of my best friends are black”. So any outrageous “articles” about jews or blacks are fair game. Take your head out of your ****.
LOL, ok Israel is a welcoming country to any Arab, for sure.. as the Apartheid was to the black Africans
Peter,
You are saying that Israel is not a democracy. Now I am not blind to criticism and some of it is justified but please keep in mind that the situation is much more complex.
-Israel is not located in peaceful Europe where we have the luxury of being liberal and completely free: it is a small country surrounded by states which hate its guts and want to destroy it.
-when the palestinians of Gaza and the Westbank were allowed to move more or less freely in Israel LOTS of busses exploded and hundreds of people were killed. After building the wall this has stopped.
I remember that british authorities responded with harshness and panic after the attacks on the London metro, killing a completely innocent brasilian. Israel is facing these challenges constantly, day by day. Do you think it is possible always to remain moderate in such a situation?
-While I do not deny that palestinians were forced away from their land keep in mind that back in 1948 the arab states started the war against Israel (“we will force the jews into the sea”). They lost it and this meant loss of territory for many palestinians.
Perhaps you are not aware of this but such things do happen in a war: millions of germans were forced out of their homeland by czech and polish autohorities after Germany lost the war it had started .
Moreover, arab states surrounding Israel actually encouraged palestinians to leave their homeland, trumpeting that they would be able to return soon after arab victory in the next war. These palestinians have been treated shamefully, living in slums and being exploited by the corrupt governments of these states as a cheap source of labout. Did you know that, with the exception of Jordania, no arab state even gave citizenship to these refugees? Israel gives citizenship to its arab inhabitants.
And finally, please compare Israel to its neigbours which are just total dictatorships.
Niels i am not going to go head to head with you on this as obviously your opinion is biased. But just to keep it clear the rabbis were not charged for technical reasons. However their involvement is undeniable as they did admit it themselves.
Now in terms of different behaviour from the swedish press towards the jewish community and the Islamic community i do believe you are smart enough to understand that this is only recent due to theincident with the so called cartoon. I am sure from now on they will do the same with Israel.
Lastly the fact the reporter interviewed people and posted an article based on their stories does not justify to go against freedom of press even if the interviewed folks were not truthfull.
And in no way contemned the Israel population or army. He simply passed the info he had to the public. News papers relay news and stories. Courts judge…remember that.
Paul you obviously have not read the article i was refering to as you would know that the american Jews as you called them are accused of trading organs from the Israel-Gaza area!And that alone has a great relavance to the article on the swedish paper dont you think?
Øystein,
I have never called you anti semmitic and I am also convinced that you are sincere in what you are saying BUT I totally disagree with your reasoning (in your comments above).
And I am not the only one.
> Bromley86 – I haven´t said any argument against Israel. I just said that I haven´t heard/learned about that legend, and I don´t see any reason for why kids to learn about it either.
I have paid my kids at school to visit the the consentration camps in Germany and Polen. They learn enough about the jews at school, but they are not jews.
http://www.hvitebusser.no/Webdesk/netblast/pages/index.html (sorry Norwegian).
I have had jews very close in my family, and did never – absolute never – hear any negative comment on that. I even know someone that was inside Gaza. One of my closest friend have jewish parent.
I am just so tired of this antisemmittic comments every time a nonjew or supporter make a critical comment. Even jews here (Norway) are some frustrated on it. Her is also a news from wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Weiss_(fictional_person)
I prefer to look forward.
Øystein,
In my opinion these are different matters. I have been very critical about certain icelandic politicians/bankers but I always try to give a reason for this opinion .
Moreover the offenses that these people – in my opinion- committed (fraud/corruption/incompetence) are nothing compared to the facts that Israel is being accused of by the article in Aftonbladet: the monstrous killing of innocent people in order to steal their organs.
On the one hand we have economic crimes which are clear to see and easy to discuss (and I do not mind it al all when people disagree with me since that is what this forum is about) , on the other hand we have a totally immoral and groundless accusation of monstrous crimes dished up in a manner which makes it a modern version of the century old myth of blood libel. About such things no discussion is possible.
So you cannot compare these things.
I do not remember that I ever posted a comment in which I attacked or insulted the icelandic people as a whole (in fact, when I visited Iceland the people made a very good impression on me and I have mentioned this several times) but what Bostrom does is something totally different: he makes terrible accusations, is unable to support them with facts but causes damage since he leaves the impression that Israel indeed does such terrible things.
Øystein, how would you feel if somebody would call the entire norwegian population pigs who abuse and rape children in third world countries (you know that somebody did this some months ago on this forum)? In such a situation discussion is impossible isn’t it? And as a norwegian you would feel obliged to speak out in defence wouldn’t you? That is basically just what the jewish reaction is to this article.
So you’re alright with unsupported statements that feed into centuries-long hatreds? Did you see what the writer and editor have said?
Now if you want to argue against Israel, from its policies to its existence, based on facts, then fair enough. But enough already with defending this sort of crap.
Paul – Why did then Knesset approve a new law on the issue in March 2008?
Oystein,
“I is a good thing to have read/understood the background of the article before you make strong comments on others.”
An irrelevant answer addressing what I had originally decried as an irrelevant connection.
Niels – You like to comment how bad Icelandic politicans/bankers behaved, but dont´t accept any nonjew/-supporter to critizice/comment on Israel.
Paul – “Now what relevance does that have to the Swedish article.” – I is a good thing to have read/understood the background of the article before you make strong comments on others.
“I can guess which one most normal people would prefer…”
Jim, don’t know which “normal” people would prefer but the Israeli democracy is the more vibrant one. So if you prefer a free-wheeling democracy then go with the Israeli one.
Zorba,
You write: “If i remember correctly a couple of weeks ago 44 elected officials and Jewish rabbis were arrested in the US for organ trafficking. Is that maybe fiction too?”
Now what relevance does that have to the Swedish article. Wait, I know, it’s that an American Jew committed a horrendous act, so obviously an out of thin air accusation of the same acts leveled against Israeli soldiers must be more credible. Wow, now that is naked bigotry. I guess Italian soldiers must rape little boys. After all, some Catholic clergy in Boston, USA have done so. Then again, such leaps of evil can only apply with respect to Jews.
Actually, in the world, there is no posibility to critizice nothing coming from Israel: you will become antisemite in one milisecond.
Swedish magazines have all the rights to critizice facts or evidences about thing happened in Israel (like some european goverments are investigating about how the army of Isreal murdered Palestins).
So please Israel, the world is free, doesnt belong to you and leave alone the free speech, it´s a big value in Europe.
oops, I was wrong saying that Bostrom was a moron.
Sorry.
There are TWO morons – Bostrom and newspaper Editor.
And here is the evidence.
If I was Israeli authorities I would answer “We did autopsy to be sure they were dead”… I guess this would be very logical explanation for a moron.
PS. Nothing personal – just freedom of speech in its pure form.
Just another modren blood libel. Nothing had changed, history repeat itself.
Sweet. Nice way to mess with the burden of proof.
Anyway, see Fisy’s post where the author clarifies what a douchebag he is.
Actually they don’t, at least not in most countries.
aftonbladet, dagbladet …. worthless pieces of paper, imo :/ Well, that’s what occurs when there is freedom for medias ^^
Zorba,
I have no problem with freedom of speech but I expect a serious newspaper to follow certain guidelines on proper journalism.
These guidelines are:
-stories implying accusations should have some factual base
-the side which is being accused should have the opportunity to speak out in defence.
So I am not saying that such an article should be banned, I am saying that a serious newspaper should apply certain standards of journalism. Moreover I would like to point out that this very same newspaper gladly publishes insulting aritcles about Israel and jews but censors itself when it is about islam.
You asked me:
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Do you really think (and if so do you have proof)the newspaper had no proof of such a delicate story?
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Yes, in this thread it has already been answered twice, first the article itself:
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The article in Aftonbladet is written by the author and photographer Donald Bostrom who in previous articles and books has directed similar criticism to the Israeli army. He has however not been able to present evidence except his own experience to support the claims
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and:
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The writer, Donald Bostrom, based the story on accounts from Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza whom he identified only by their first names. It quotes an Israeli military spokesman denying the charges and saying that Palestinians killed by Israeli forces are routinely subjected to autopsies.
Interviewed on Israel Radio on Wednesday, Bostrom said he was worried by the allegations he reported but could not vouch for their accuracy.
“It concerns me, to the extent that I want it to be investigated, that’s true. But whether it’s true or not — I have no idea, I have no clue,” he told the station.”
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(thx for posting that one Fisy).
And I would like you to get your facts straight, you write:
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If i remember correctly a couple of weeks ago 44 elected officials and Jewish rabbis were arrested in the US for organ trafficking. Is that maybe fiction too?
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Well,you do NOT remember correctly, please check the following link:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/07/23/new.jersey.arrests/
44 people were arrested, FIVE of them were rabbi’s and there were NO charges of traffick in human organs but the charges were about CORRUPTION.
Bad as it is, it has absolutely nothing to do with trade in human organs. So what you are writing IS fiction.
I am not saying that any criticism of Israel or jews is forbidden,but I cannot accept it if lies, distortions and nonsense are written which have no factual base.
Niels said:
“Please check your facts: Israel has universal suffrage. There are also arab parties represented in the Kneseth.”
The West bank and Gaza strip are not independant states, the population are under the control of Israel. Exit in and out of the areas by people and goods is completely controlled by Israel. Most of the refugee’s in Gaza and the West Bank were evicted from land that is now occupied by Israel.
They are not given the vote, or any other rights as citizens yet they controlled as if they were the property of the Israeli state.
This factor was the main reason why the Gaza strip Israeli settlements were abandoned – to avoid this accusation.
I don’t see how they can; Israel is not a democracy.
Niels “Perhaps you are not aware of this, but this way of ‘reasoning’ has been practised by anti-semmits since the early middle ages. People ‘had seen’ how jews kidnapped and killed children, drank their blood and performed all kinds of horrible rituals. All this was ‘absolutely true’.”
This stories are real for the practice of some Jews in the Kabbalah, not the general public.
And as always, stories about Zionist actions and the masses that are a bit inept go on their defences of their claims of anti-Semitism, but Zionist media can demonise and insult whom ever they one and then they are on their right.
Please we are in 2009, should we not know better?
Niels i find it funny how you attack people for simply stating their view. Do you really think (and if so do you have proof)the newspaper had no proof of such a delicate story?
If i remember correctly a couple of weeks ago 44 elected officials and Jewish rabbis were arrested in the US for organ trafficking. Is that maybe fiction too?
At the end of the day the press has the right to freedom of speach. Even if the story is false. And Israel needs to check first their story before they start complaining about things like this.
I highly doubt that all these stories are false…as the saying goes…Where there is smoke..there is fire!
Tom,
As I recall,while in large measure short of an apology, the relevant governments had no problem condemning their own press for printing the Mohammad cartoons. I also recall that the governments did put the arm on their press to refrain from printing those cartoons. So, perhaps Israel is not so crazy to demand more for false accusations of blood libel than what was offered up for a silly cartoon that threatened no more than to insult.
If this story was about China then I would be likely to believe it as documented harvesting of bodies and organs of executed prisoners has gone on there.
But I do not believe it about Israelis. Extraordinary claims require extradordinary proof.
That article is worse that cheap sensationalism that tabloid normally come up with.
The editors of the paper should be fired by their owners for letting this kind of article into publication and bringing they news paper into disrepute.
AP have article about it :
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iSYpeLo9EP1NAwa_SduklhjH4znAD9A62EFG0
“The article published Monday in Aftonbladet, Sweden’s largest circulation daily, implies a link between those charges and the recent arrest in the U.S. of an American Jew for illicit organ trafficking. Later the reporter told Israel Radio he did not know if the allegations were true
Headlined “Our sons are plundered for their organs,” the story made news in Israel, where some commentators compared it to medieval libels that Jews killed Christian children for their blood. Daniel Seaman, who heads Israel’s government press office, said the article played on “vile anti-Semitic themes.”
The article was illustrated with a photograph of a dead Palestinian man with a line of surgical stitches running the length of his torso, apparently taken after an autopsy, as well as pictures of stone-throwing youths and Levy Izhak Rosenbaum, a New York resident arrested in an FBI sting last month and charged with plotting to buy a kidney from an Israeli and sell it to an American patient for $160,000.
The writer, Donald Bostrom, based the story on accounts from Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza whom he identified only by their first names. It quotes an Israeli military spokesman denying the charges and saying that Palestinians killed by Israeli forces are routinely subjected to autopsies.
Interviewed on Israel Radio on Wednesday, Bostrom said he was worried by the allegations he reported but could not vouch for their accuracy.
“It concerns me, to the extent that I want it to be investigated, that’s true. But whether it’s true or not — I have no idea, I have no clue,” he told the station.”
Aftonbladet Editor Jan Helin said, “The article poses a question — why has this body been autopsied when the cause of death is obvious? There I think Israeli authorities owe us an answer.”
Israeli legal expert Moshe Negbi said that according to Israeli law, “Autopsies are immediately performed after every unnatural death, and this is true for most other countries as well.” ..
The Muslims want Danish cartoons banned.
The Jews want Swedish news banned.
I just want Big Brother banned…
I think this assumption is wrong. Would be correct to say “never realized that so many people hated…..”
This is not a Scandinavian “phenomena”.
But back to Swedish “freedom of speech” – I assume I can call Donald Bostrom a MORON. Although I can’t present any evidence of that – just my own experience to support the claim. But this about “freedom”, right? Who cares about responsibility?
Just one more detail to Swedish “freedom” and “refugees” problems. When Russia sent a request to extradite a Chechen terrorist who kidnapped and later killed a reporter! – Supreme Court of Sweden found all evidence conclusive and ruled out that the murderer should be sent for a trail back to Russia. But cause final decision was made by the Government (not by the independent court!) – the murderer enjoys life in Sweden. Reason – Swedish government was not sure of safety of the murderer.
BTW he was found in Sweden after been arrested for criminal offense there (and checked carefully). He entered Sweden with false passport under false name and got refugee status (and benefits).
So I wouldn’t be surprised by Swedish “freedom”… from common sense at all.
This is ridiculous. While I think that the article is ridiculous and I think that Aftonbladet’s judgement is rather questionable, Sweden is a democracy. The fact that Israel is condemning them for NOT practicing censorship is appalling. No one has to agree with this article, but the Jews should not get any more special treatment than any other group.
People will always say hateful things, and the fact that people have a right to say them in a free world is an unfortunately side effect. Israel’s call for systematic censorship of any sort makes me question what sort of ‘democracy’ they think the world ought to have.
Never realized that Scandinavians hated Jews so much. If this page is any example, they have a large pool of apologists for Jew hatred. Such bigotry. For shame!
Øystein,
Bromley and I were just pointing out that you do not have a clue about the blood-libel legend that has been used over the centuries to stir up hatred against jews.
This article in Aftonbladet is just a modern form of this legend, that is why I mentioned it in my first comment in this thread..
If you do not know about it, fine, but then please do not post things like you did above since it only shows ignorance.
Niels – I don´t see any argument on that Norwegian school kids should learn that “jews kidnapped and killed children, drank their blood and performed all kinds of horrible rituals”.
Bromley, thx for pointing this out to Øystein.
Øystein, the blood- libel story is well known and obviously something is wrong with the school system in Norway if you have never heard of it.
>It is you that make this come true – I have never heard argument like this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_libel_against_Jews
>Niels “Perhaps you are not aware of this, but this way of ‘reasoning’ has been practised by anti-semmits since the early middle ages. People ‘had seen’ how jews kidnapped and killed children, drank their blood and performed all kinds of horrible rituals. All this was ‘absolutely true’.”
It is you that make this come true – I have never heard argument like this.
Peter,
Please check your facts: Israel has universal suffrage. There are also arab parties represented in the Kneseth.
How many jewish parties are represented in arab countries and how many arab countries have a real parliament at all?
The westbank and Gaza strip are parts of the palestinian authority and they have their own parliament (for what it is worth).
Peter,
You said: “Israel is not a democracy, nearly 50% of the population don’t have a vote.”
Not true. All Israeli citizens, Jews and Arabs have the right to vote. However, children do not. So, I guess you might have a point, but it makes little sense.
Israel is not a democracy, nearly 50% of the population don’t have a vote.
Simone,
the article says:
“The article in Aftonbladet is written by the author and photographer Donald Bostrom who in previous articles and books has directed similar criticism to the Israeli army. He has however not been able to present any evidence except his own experience to support the claims.
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So mr. Bostrom has not been able to put forward any evidence…but you are?
please quote an independent source to back up your claim.
“There is a story about a palestinian who was shot to death while unarmed in the 90:
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So you are implying that he was murdered for no reason, being fully innocent?
Perhaps he was wearing a belt with explosives and trying to board a bus? Israel is a democratic country where people are not shot dead for no reason, which is a marked difference form all these great arab countries surrounding it. When was this? Who was this man? Which circumstances?
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and how the israelis took the body away in helicopter, returning it opened upp one week later.
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In criminal cases an autopsy can be ordered by the authorities. This could have been the case here too. Since you are telling a very vague story without names, dates or circumstances your statement is just an allegation, nothing more.
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The chief of the institute of forensics was later on fired after 125 cases of lost organs from bodies
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Really? Quote s source please. Were all these bodies from palestinians shot for no reason but to steal their organs or were these people who had died of natural causes?
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so the story is quite true.
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Did they teach you logical reasoning at school?
In a comment of only a few sentences you have been able to come up with a lot of vague accusations against israel: an innocent man was shot dead by jews. The jews cut him open. Later organs were removed from 125 bodies, again by the jews. All this is ‘absolutley true’, even though no sources or any serious evidence is given, just vague and unverified accusations.
Perhaps you are not aware of this, but this way of ‘reasoning’ has been practised by anti-semmits since the early middle ages. People ‘had seen’ how jews kidnapped and killed children, drank their blood and performed all kinds of horrible rituals. All this was ‘absolutely true’.
These stories then were welcome excuses to persecute and murder jews.
This spirit still seems to be alive in people like you.
Well, of course there is no story about “blood sucking” in the article. There is a story about a palestinian who was shot to death while unarmed in the 90:s and how the israelis took the body away in helicopter, returning it opened upp one week later.
The chief of the institute of forensics was later on fired after 125 cases of lost organs from bodies, so the story is quite true.
The website of the Sweden Democrats (Sverigedemokraterna) reopened on Friday morning, after the far-right party removed drawings of the prophet Muhammad. The site had been taken down by its hosting company after requests from Sweden’s foreign ministry and security service, Säpo.
Nuff said.
So the century’s old horror story of the blood sucking and child-murdering jew is still alive in Sweden…
In the past these stories were used to arouse hatred against jews. Probably the motives of Bostrom are similar.
Of course every country has its idiots but I fail to understand why a serious newspaper would publish such a story without having any evidence.
If I would send a story about my abduction by martians to Aftonbladet, would it be published too?
If it’s a choice between Sweedish democracy and Israeli democracy, I can guess which one most normal people would prefer…